I didn't exactly mean flimsy as they do seem somewhat sufficient, they just seem to be really cheap feeling. I guess maybe I'm just used to my old 110. I haven't bought a rifle since the early 90's, do they build any like they used to? In the say $600.00 rage? My toss up is between the Axis, the 111, Stevens and the Ruger American. I know the Stevens has the same action as my 110, so I'm leaning in that direction.