Savage Mark II-FV Accuracy

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Hello, Is there someone out there with a .22 Savage Mark II-FV who could tell me a couple of things?

1. What sort Of MOA can you get with this thing, Im not good enough to really test that out.

2. Also what type of rimfire does this thing love? Like i think it likes american eagle, i think im getting about 1.25 moa at 200 yards with it, but i dont know so could someone tell me what this baby likes?
 
If you are getting 1.25 groupings at 200 yards with your savage...... and you are asking what kind of ammo it likes ?????

Please post some groupings for us.
 
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If you are getting 1.25 groupings at 200 yards with your savage...... and you are asking what kind of ammo it likes ?????

Please post some groupings for us.
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yes please post
i cant seem to break the 2 moa mark at 100 with any ammo in my savage mark IIF lett alone 1.25 at 200
 
im pretty sure im wrong about 1.25 though but the cheap american eagle stuff seems to work well, i get a flatter trajectory then with thunderbolts. and thats 1.25 moa, = 2.5 inches. thats the non hollow point. However keep in mind that those are 5 shot groups and i found that i had a lot of flyers, about one in every 10. and above all remember that im not completely sure about that measurement of 1.25, it could be all the way up to about 1.75
 
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Groups are measured from the center to center of the two furthest holes.

1.25 to 1.75 at 100 sounds about right.... You can try Winchester Super X Power Points.... Also Eley are quite accurate. The American Eagle are probably one of the cheapest, dirtiest ammos there is....


You will have to try numerous ammunition to see which one it likes best.


Out of curiousity, why are you shooting a 22 at 200 yards...
 
Well im fairly new to the sport so i need to learn all the basics. So i figured if im going to learn it on a 22, the ammo is cheap enough i can practice alot, and if i push it out to 200 yards all the stuff thats closer will be no problemo. And you are right american eagle is the cheapest stuff out there. but im having good luck with it so far. ill look into the wincester super x power points, but im still not shooting to american eagles full potential so ill stick with that. when it starts to crap out on me ill upgrade. and well ive always been one to set my goals high.
 
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Most accuracy shooting for 22LR are either at 50 or 100 metres... they are not really designed for 200yrd shooting....

Seeing a grouping that you can cover with a quarter at 50 metres is more exciting than looking at a 2 1/2 or 3" grouping at 200....

Where your scope is at 200 will be way off at 50 yards with a 22LR.

22's were designed for small game hunting at 50 to 100 meters....

But whatever floats your boat..
 
well yeah you are totally right about the scope, but when a nice dead no wind whatsoever day roles around ill take measurements on howmuch to dial for each range. ive got it dialed in for 100 yards and it nicely just requires one full twist to go to 200. once i get that all sorted out it will be going even better.
 
yeah at that range things start to go really funky, i mean somewhere around there the .22 starts dropping very fast, and the wind can blow my bullet over a foot over, so i got to either read the wind or have pressure on the trigger until the wind pauses. its teaching me a lot. still cant read the vegetation well for wind speed though :(
 
At 200 yards, you would have better success with a 17HMR or move up to 204, 223 or 22-250.....

But if you are having fun shooting the 22, then keep shooting:dancingbanana:
 
Yeah you are right on that, i just want to become excellent on a caliber that will teach me something instead of the ones that basically flat line to 200 yards. .22 is also so cheap :D but i wish i could find out its maximum accuracy. :( 'i dont want to be trying to achive .5 moa when my rifle doesnt even shoot it.) thats right, .5 moa. ive got a long way to go.
 
Its highly unlikely that rifle will shoot .5 at 100metres.... If you are getting .5 at 50 then you should be very happy.....

If you want to shoot .5 at 100 then you are looking at rifles like Cooper, Kimber, Sako, possibly a CZ.... But .5 at 100 metres with a cheap .22 is highly unlikely. You might get one or two groupings like that, but not consistantly shooting .5 in groupings.

People do it all the time, buy a 200-300 rifle and are expecting .5 at 100 metres consistantly... like a thousand dollar rifle.
 
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heck yeah. i would say its unlikely as well. but if a light shined from heaven on my rifle on the production line and a voice said ' let thine rifle shoot .5 MOA ' I want to know about it, however i dont think gods in the department of free rifle upgrading. I would agree that its unlikely, i mean it only cost me about 259 + tax, so im not expecting a godlike rifle. but i do want to know its accuracy. (realistic guess for it is about .75 - 1 moa for 50 yards and 1 at 100 yards, thats just my best guess. 200 yards? who knows? this is using half decent ammo of course.) Any chance someone knows where i can get something cheap to clamp my rifle into so i can see how good it is?

Basically it comes down to " How good is this thing, how can i find that out, and what are some cheap ways i can make it better?"
 
Well, I never said it was impossible. But if you want to know what kind of MOA shooter it is and you are, you have to shoot at 100 and measure the groupings and don't worry about what is can do punched in a vice, if you can't duplicate it with a steady rest, like a bipod or sandbag , it really doesn't matter. Shooting a 3" grouping at 200 does not automatically mean you shoot 1 1/2 at 100 and .75 at 50.

My Sako Trg-S in 270 Weatherby will shoot a 3 shot single ragged hole with just a sandbag on the front... than makes me happy because I know its me making the shot, not a locked in vice.

My Weatherby Vanguard in 257 Wby does a 5 shot ragged hole, again just using a front sandbag and moving it between shots.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/mylesrom/120Nosler-65gr7828.jpg

You want to practice your trigger pull, breathing and your shooting ability, a vice will not help that.

By the way I am getting in a Savage mark ll-BV with the laminate stock. I am hoping its possible to get .75 at 50 and 1.25 at 100... but I don't necessarily expect it too. Would love to buy a Kimber or Sako but don't have a spare grand.
 
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Sorry I think i worded my idea badly, I wanted to use the vice To Set My Goal for accuracy with this rifle. im not planing to lug a vice everywhere i go, that would be totally stupid. Im just trying to see what sort of reasonable goal i should set for my self to avoid being frusterated by an inaccuracy of my rifle. i mean i would try to duplicate the sort of groups i get in a vice with a sand bag, bipod, kneeling, standing, etc. The vice is a tool i would use to get the accuracy of my rifle and the bullet drops for the ranges, and mabye if im very lucky and get good at gauging wind, calculating deflection. im not using it for everyday shooting. :)
 
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Why don't you shoot some 5 shot groupings at 50 and then at 100 and post some pics for us....

You should start close and then work your way out, I never heard of anyone starting out far and work their way back... there are too many variables out to 200 with a 22lr to verify your rifles accuracy. They are not really designed to be 200 yard shooters....

Plus at 50 yards you can see all your hits thu your scope, at 200 yards you will not be able to see where each round it hitting without a spotting scope.
 
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ok ill see what i can do for group size pictures, i hope to get to the range this saturday. ill try to get some 50 and 100 groups on camera, i just hope they arnt too embarresing. :)

I know its true that a .22 isnt designed for 200 yards, but i care more about what it can do than what it was meant to do.

dont worry, ill be doing some 50 and 100 groups, mabye some 25 and 75 too.
Question, what sort of .22s do you own?
 
22 Cooey model 39.... only use it at 25yards with open sights... some ammo's are quite accurate and some are all over the place.

Sold my mark ll with light barrel, so I could buy the mark ll-BV heavy barrel..

Model 93 Savage in 22 mag...

Had a few 17HMR's but sold them to buy some other rifles.
 
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