Savage model 111 package

:confused:I'm confused. If the scope and rings are not that good and some guys have bought the "package" and then replaced them,why buy the "package" in the first place,why not just buy the rifle for less money and then do your thing with scope etc ???

So you can leave the store, and immediately take the gun to the range and go shooting, shake the mounts loose, figure out the scope sucks, swear at yourself for thinking 'it can't be that bad', kick yourself for being too weak to resist the urge to immediately shoot it and too lazy to buy the unpackaged rifle and scoping it yourself, spending the extra coin on a Leupold and new mounts, and now have a crappy scope and mounts lying around to be put on another gun.. which of course means buying another gun. And this, the final reason, is the best reason to justify buying the package :D.
 
So you can leave the store, and immediately take the gun to the range and go shooting, shake the mounts loose, figure out the scope sucks, swear at yourself for thinking 'it can't be that bad', kick yourself for being too weak to resist the urge to immediately shoot it and too lazy to buy the unpackaged rifle and scoping it yourself, spending the extra coin on a Leupold and new mounts, and now have a crappy scope and mounts lying around to be put on another gun.. which of course means buying another gun. And this, the final reason, is the best reason to justify buying the package :D.

Or when you buy the package negotiate a better scope, take a store credit on the crappy package scope, upgrade the rings to weaver rings as part of the deal and pay a total $50 more and have a nice rifle with a decent scope. (Not a leopold or such but that is too much money for me anyways).
 
IMHO Savage's package rifle deals are pretty good. Their rifles are roughly finished and cheap looking and feeling, though they are accurate and relatively durable. They provide an entry point for people on a budget and there is nothing with that. Yes the Simmons 8-point(or whatever they are currently putting on them) suck, but eventually they get upgraded. One can go to a gun store and purchase a used rifle (usually someone's pawned off headache) or you can buy a brand new Savage 11/111 package. Nice to have options.
 
Get a Savage and use Burris Sig Zee rings and an Elite 3200 and you'll have bargain rifle that will shoot as well as any over $2000. I know this from spending over $2000 on my last rig and it was no better then any of my Savages.

Cheers!!
 
Although i have never had the package gun, i have had a stevens 200. It definetly turned in good groups as a 22-250, but is now a 358 winchester. It turns in good groups still. These were shot while breaking in the new adams and bennet barrel, chopped to 20" and topped with a leupold vari-x3 in 1.5-5x

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they arn't bad.

A savage 111 in .270 was my first 'sport' rifle.

I'd go with that the other members said...

its a crappy scope but doesn't need replacing ASAP.
 
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