School me: dump pouches

personally, I am not a fan, i find that under pressure its a pain to get the mag into the dump pouch. If i am under pressure, the mag can hit the floor, if under less pressure, I will put it back in the magazine pouch. Also, I find with dump pouches when you get a couple mags in there and are running/moving, it gets real annoying bouncing off your legs.
 
I only use them if I'm outside of Canada. With 5/10 round mags, partials are pretty rare.

If I'm using regular mags, they're pretty handy. I put partially full mags in if I swap mags at a convenient time, and then I've got something handy if I'm out of full mags and down to my last stock of ammo.

The other thing they can be nice for is if you're in a class where it's convenient to have half a dozen mags on you, but you want to run your usual slick or duty gear, which only has space for 2 mags, say, or even one. Then you can hang a drop pouch off your belt with a pile of mags in it, and your regular single or double pistol or rifle or whatever you use, and backfeed your actual mag pouch from your drop bag.
 
Ok here's my experience and the way "I" use it.

The placement of the dump pouch is critical to the kind of shooting you will do.
It can be attached to a belt, tac vest and even a drop leg.

First of. What position will you shoot from? And on what side?
Always on your support hand side. Make sure the pouch is accessible and nothing can get in the way as you try to reach it to dump or retrieve something.

Some guys I know ( specially for static pistol marches events ) like to put it in the front middle just under the belt line. Great but not so good if you shoot prone.
Drop leg? If you shoot kneeling? This will make thing interesting.

I like a 10-2 o'clock position. Just under the belt line. Not too low. Not too high. Nothing is in the way.
THis way I can use it prone. Kneeling and standing if I need to.
I use it for admin reloads or when I practice. SR matches? Yes. No time to #### around putting them back in the mag pouches? Perfect for that. You win precious seconds.

I am not a fan of the drop leg. when running it's hard to put anything inside. And for some firing position it can get impossible to put anything in or out.



I like the MALICE CLIP attachement. Why? Because it is flexible enough to move around when I drop on the kneeling. It falls back on the side. Molle? Perhaps but try to have a flexible link fro the pouch to your vest/belt etc...
This will prevent the pouch to close on you or get folded and close on you.

Link it a way so it can move freely and follow your body position.


Lobster trap style. Adjustable!


Molle and loop attachement psooibilities. Make sure you figure out how you will attach this to you before you buy anything. I learned the hard way.





Any questions? Feel free to ask me.

Cheers.

Get a model that has the lobster trap option. Easy to get a mag in. Nothing will fall.
 
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It's all a matter of training. They're useful for keeping track of your magazines, when changes are done under less than emergent situations, i.e. shooting drills, etc.
I prefer it to having to scrabble around on the ground, trying to find my mags in the vegetation, or with multiple shooters, deciding which mags belong to whom.
I've never been a fan of putting empty mags back into a pouch, as I have trained to go to the next magazines available when reloading, so it cuts down on guessing which magazines are still charged, ready to go.
Like most gear choices....belt versus chest rig...type, and positioning of different kinds of pouches on your load bearing kit, etc., etc., it keeps coming back to personal preference.
 
I use a maxpedition rolypoly it can hold 7 full size AR15 mags or a ton of shotty shells. I dont do AR competitions but its better to put your empty mags in the pouch than drop them on the dirt.
 
I bought one; I tried to like it, and get accustomed to putting empty mags into one spot. The bottom line was that it's one more thing hanging off me, and it doesn't need to be there. I just put empty mags back in the pouches they came from.
 
Dump pouches are used for a wide variety of things, not just dumping magazines that you wish to retain (ala tack loads), but for collecting site intel as well as shotty cards and an extra 40mm round or two for the 203.

As you can see, it is more than just an individual piece of kit.

As for putting mags back where you found them, that is one way of doing it, but it's not how I do it. I do not have the time to put a mag back where I found it in the middle of contact. When I'm just done contact and am in the middle of a re-org, I have other business on my mind. I also like to know which mags I have to reload and which mags I have fresh in case it's not quite done yet.

Also, in the case of just ditching empty mags, I admit it, I've done that too, but only because I ####ed up and got caught in a bad spot with an empty weapon.

Now as to what and how...

I use an MM-EMDOM dump pouch with a trap to keep from doing a yard sale if I hit the dirt. I can jam eight magazines inside if I stack 'em neat (yeah, right) but six is what I usually find is the limit what with an extra 203 round and a shotty card sitting in the bottom getting in the way. I place it at the 7 o'clock on my war belt. Be sure that you can reach it with both hands and that the top of it stays below your elbow so that you can easily put stuff in and take stuff out. I advise against sticking it on a drop leg and recommend minimizing the amount of crap you strap to your legs. My service pistol holster is as high up as I can get it without restricting the draw stroke and keep it from banging into my cumberbund.

-S.
 
I us a belt mounted roll up pouch. It is used for spent mags, but most often I use it for just a general pouch. It gets used a lot during range clean up. Fill it with brass, ammo boxes, empty beer cans, etc. They are incredibly handy.
 
Yeah - I use a belt mounted roll-up pouch also ....

I have it over my butt, as long as I'm not doing some timed exercises, it keeps my expensive mags clean and ready to go.

The gear you use is like the proverbial 'cat with a bell on it's collar' - if ya set your mind to it, you can get used to anything.

Abby
 
I ran one in a CQB match and it was great. Keeps your loaded mags separate from your empty mags. Keeps your mags off the ground. Keeps you from trying to find your mags in the mud later. I trained with it at home and found that it only added a fraction of a second to my reloads - good enough for me. Get a large one so you can find it without looking down.

Returning mags back into tac vests etc is too slow for competition. If you aren't competing or in the military I don't see the point of the pouch really.
 
I use a MaxPedition Rolly Polly (Medium) for a dump pouch. I use them for mags while shooting, and use them for brass pickup during cleanup.

The Rolly Polly folds up tight on the belt, and easy to deploy when needed - and out of the way when not needed.

Take a peek at it
 
I have several of the Maxpedition ones.

Only used during a Phaseline Green course. So this is all the experience I have with them.

I wore mine at 7-8 o'clock position. Kept my mags outta the mud. I was slow to begin with so not a big deal overall. Plus I use them on hikes for a water bottle carrier when a bag/backpack is not needed.
 
I use a roll up one for training. Especially useful when on a soppy range "it ain't training if it ain't raining"

If it's muddy and there's lots of movement drills, good luck finding your mags after folks be stepping them into the earth
 
As stated, it depends on your style of shooting...

Most Police training generally dissuades their use... There is an assumption that you outnumber the bad guys, have more ammo than you need, and can get more easily. Putting a mag into the pouch takes just a split second longer than dropping it free and jamming a new one in... Split seconds can kill, or cause you to lose the match if competing.

Military training frequently encourages them... The assumptions are the polar opposites of those above, and as my infanteer Brother-in-law points out a rifleman might as well be dead if he has no mags to reload...

That said, I recently bought a Blackhawk! Omega Elite Dump Pouch and I'm going to TRY using it for CQB... If nothing else it'll be somewhere I can hide my cookies!
 
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