Scope base options for Kimber?
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Machined pot metal... like a Ruger?
It has been suggested many a time that most Talley one piece set ups fail due to being torqued improperly. A quality fit for purpose inch pound wrench... and not something that has Fat in it's name.
Like most things in life, scope rings are definitely a "you get out what you put in" proposition. Performance has very little to do with how much money a feller lays out, and more to do with how much knowledge that same feller applies to what he is actually doing.
And also like most things forum related... it can be made as simple or as complicated as one wishes.
R.
I’m not the one that broke rings Russel. Take that up with your friend Larry.
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Have run several (10 plus) sets for around 20 years now. From a stout 338WM on down. Never had an issue.
A wise feller always chooses skill over luck.
That way he doesn't feel the need to chase his own tail...
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I have easily ran that many sets or more over the years. None were over torqued. One did let go on me just like in the OP’s picture. My rifles are never abused or dropped, that would be a different story.
I won’t run them on my rifles anymore.
Any ring is only as good as the material they are made of. Considering all rings are made from some kind of alloy, inclusions are going to be a fact. When the sample size grows, so does the number of "failures". For the sheer numbers of Talley rings produced, the "no fault" failure rate would be incredibly small.
It should also be pointed out that torque is only one of many issues that can fail a ring...
How do you know for certain that they weren't over torqued?
Also, you didn't answer my other questions...
R.
Not sure why so many people get emotionally wound up over Talleys? Match it to a Leupold and suggest that the glass doesn't track or hold zero or that the Talley's broke while the rifle was laying on the seat of a pickup AND they were properly torqued and you might as well be one of the guys holding Jesus's arms while he was nailed to the cross...
Pretty simple to choose stuff that works so you aren't chasing your tail as long as you don't get emotionally invested in a product produced by a company that doesn't even know or care that you exist.
Leupold Dual Dovetails are pretty trim, don't look terrible, and are really unlikely to snap, even if you drop your rifle in a creek while fishing. Same as Burris Signature Rings. Same as a dozen others already mentioned.
The. problems start to happen when a person forgets that a rifle has only one job, and that isn't to look pretty, or to be as light as humanly possible. It's supposed to put a cold bore round where you put the cross hairs, each and every time. That's it. When you start making trade off's because you want to save an ounce, or because you don't like the way something LOOKS, then you are bastardizing the one true purpose that the rifle has and you are taking chances that the rifle won't do what you need it to do, when you need it to do it.
0.00000000000000000058 seconds on google will show hundreds of people talking about broken Talleys. Call Talley and say that you had one snap and they don't even ask anything other than your address so they can send a replacement. You don't see that with any other ring or base out there. Why do people take it so personally? At this point, it is pretty hard to refute the fact that they can and do snap at inopportune times.
Pretty simple to choose stuff that works so you aren't chasing your tail as long as you don't get emotionally invested in a product produced by a company that doesn't even know or care that you exist.
Leupold Dual Dovetails are pretty trim, don't look terrible, and are really unlikely to snap, even if you drop your rifle in a creek while fishing. Same as Burris Signature Rings. Same as a dozen others already mentioned.
The. problems start to happen when a person forgets that a rifle has only one job, and that isn't to look pretty, or to be as light as humanly possible. It's supposed to put a cold bore round where you put the cross hairs, each and every time. That's it. When you start making trade off's because you want to save an ounce, or because you don't like the way something LOOKS, then you are bastardizing the one true purpose that the rifle has and you are taking chances that the rifle won't do what you need it to do, when you need it to do it.
0.00000000000000000058 seconds on google will show hundreds of people talking about broken Talleys. Call Talley and say that you had one snap and they don't even ask anything other than your address so they can send a replacement. You don't see that with any other ring or base out there. Why do people take it so personally? At this point, it is pretty hard to refute the fact that they can and do snap at inopportune times.
Maybe you need to attempt to purchase the set that Chuck has pictured, then? Only to find out that they will probably break, and or stretch as well?
Or, send them back to Talley and get a new set?
Or... better yet... try to figure what you're doing wrong, in order to accomplish the most, with least?
R.
