Scope for Savage 10TR (Newby question)

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I'm new to shooting and my question is what would be a good scope for target shooting and hunting. FFP or Mil Dot,MOA or MRAD. Planing (want to) get into a long range shooting in the future.
Budget up to $500 ish.

Thanks
 
Barney "Tactical Teacher" lists the Bushnell 10x40 with tactical turrets as his all time favorite entry level scope for long range shooting.
You can find these on the EE for under $300 regularly.
He lists a number of scope options in his posts.
 
If I $500, I'd concentrate on the hunting aspect,as you'll want a low magnification also.

I have a 3.5 x14 Bushnell legend HD ($350) that's great for hunting,and some medium range target shooting.

I also have a Sightron S111 6-24 that's more suited to target shooting,but is quite capable to hunt with.

I've used mild and MOA and find MOA works for me.

As for FFP/SFP, your not going to get much for FFP with $500.

And SFP is fine.
 
I'm using a Sightron S3SS 6-24× 50mm in MOA and with sfp. It works great for me and is probably best quality for the money out there. Awesome glass and very reliable tracking. Sfp works great for me because I use it for long range target shooting and at 24 power so I know my adjustments. If I where to dial it back I'd go to 12 power and my adjustments are still really easy to calculate at that. Figured I wouldnt really see the value in the extra couple hundred dollars ffp would have cost me.
 
I have a Sightron S3 6-24x50 with MOA turrets and reticle on my 10TR and it works great. I have shot it out to 800 meters without any problems. I purchased this rifle and scope to get into long range target shooting and it serves that purpose well for my needs. I don't really plan on using it to hunt with as I have other rifles suited better for the kind of hunting I usually do. That being said in the right open location you could hunt with this combination if you didn't mind carrying the extra weight getting to your hunting spot.
 
Very happy to see so many having success with their SIII scopes. The 6-24 was my first and favorite in the Sightron line up for LR field shooting. I have used them since they were released. A fantastic scope but I have used it for hunting and it felt big.... I freely admit that I am quite a klutz and the larger profile got in my way when in the thick stuff.

If you are heavy on the target shooting and occasional on the hunting, it will make you very happy BUT quite a ways above your budget.

Consider the STAC family which is by far, the value leader in a target scope. For me, I really like the STAC3-16x42 LRMOA. Would fit both the hunting and LR shooting role easily. Not much bigger then a generic 3X9 hunting scope and really not a lot heavier. At 16X, I am shooting milk jug sized targets at 1450yds so there is plenty of mag and optic to reach out.

For a scope heavily leaning to hunting, the STAC 2-10X32 HHR2 could be just what you need. The turrets are not ideal for LR dialing but useable. The BDC reticle may cover the short to mid range needs?

The 3-16 STACs are just a bit more $ then your budget but I think will serve you well as you get into LR shooting with features you are going to want.

As was said, very little in quality optic for FFP in this price range at this time... maybe in 2018 with demand so strong???

Jerry
 
Mystic Precision said:
Very happy to see so many having success with their SIII scopes. The 6-24 was my first and favorite in the Sightron line up for LR field shooting. I have used them since they were released. A fantastic scope but I have used it for hunting and it felt big.... I freely admit that I am quite a klutz and the larger profile got in my way when in the thick stuff.

If you are heavy on the target shooting and occasional on the hunting, it will make you very happy BUT quite a ways above your budget.

Consider the STAC family which is by far, the value leader in a target scope. For me, I really like the STAC3-16x42 LRMOA. Would fit both the hunting and LR shooting role easily. Not much bigger then a generic 3X9 hunting scope and really not a lot heavier. At 16X, I am shooting milk jug sized targets at 1450yds so there is plenty of mag and optic to reach out.

For a scope heavily leaning to hunting, the STAC 2-10X32 HHR2 could be just what you need. The turrets are not ideal for LR dialing but useable. The BDC reticle may cover the short to mid range needs?

The 3-16 STACs are just a bit more $ then your budget but I think will serve you well as you get into LR shooting with features you are going to want.

As was said, very little in quality optic for FFP in this price range at this time... maybe in 2018 with demand so strong???

Jerry
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what's the price are we looking at for STAC3-16x42 LRMOA?
 
I had a stac 3-16, it wasn't even close to the S111.

I didn't find it very clear.

If your going to spend $700 + on the stac,I'd take a look at the Bushnell LRHS 3-12 FFP.
Crystal clear, excellent knobs,great reticle.

Seen one on the EE recently,for a good price. $899 shipped.

It's wayyyyy better than the Stac 3-16.
 
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Brianma65 said:
I had a stac 3-16, it wasn't even close to the S111.

I didn't find it very clear.

If your going to spend $700 + on the stac,I'd take a look at the Bushnell LRHS 3-12 FFP.
Crystal clear, excellent knobs,great reticle.

Seen one on the EE recently,for a good price. $899 shipped.

It's wayyyyy better than the Stac 3-16.
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What do you know about Bushnell elite 5-15 tactical?
 
I've had that Bushnell 5-15 tactical. It doesn't have as good of glass as the others in the Tactical line up by Bushnell. But it's pretty decent. It tracked decently, was off a bit but it was consistent. Just hate the AO. There is also Primary Arms scopes right in your price point. From what I've heard, they are a good scope for the price.
They are ffp, but the biggest thing they have is a great reticle. I think they have an illuminated reticle, and they aren't that big. So should be fine for hunting anytime. Guys are hitting steal out to 800 yards with the Acss reticle alone. Can't comment on the tracking, but I've also heard they are made in the same plant the Vortex makes their mid range scopes. I don't know if that's good or not, but I've also heard their glass is pretty descent. Only problem is they are only sold by one company in Canada. CTCS, they are up in the ad column up top. But they might not be avaliable.
Also if I where you, I'd listen to all the good advise you've gotten and spend a good hour or 2 researching all these scopes ppl mentioned.
 
MAX308 said:
... what would be a good scope for target shooting and hunting. FFP or Mil Dot,MOA or MRAD.
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You can't get a "one fits all" scope. I think you need to understand the difference first and answer some of the questions below:

1. What kind of target shooting/hunting are you planning to do? PRS, F-class or simply paper plinking? Same question for the hunting ... What type of hunting and where? Shooting an elk at a distance is one thing. Shooting a running deer in a forest is absolutely another.

2. FFP or SFP. It depends on the type of the shooting/hunting. You can't buy a FFP scope for $500 though.

3. MOA or MRAD. It depends on your calculation preferences. Are you a metric or an imperial person?

4. Mil Dot reticle or something else? You will get an answer when you answer the questions above.

My advice is to do a homework and get some knowledge first. Then, save some money. Then save more and only then buy a good, clean glass that's made for the type of shooting you would like to do. Good luck.
 
mockba77 said:
You can't get a "one fits all" scope. I think you need to understand the difference first and answer some of the questions below:

1. What kind of target shooting/hunting are you planning to do? PRS, F-class or simply paper plinking? Same question for the hunting ... What type of hunting and where? Shooting an elk at a distance is one thing. Shooting a running deer in a forest is absolutely another.

2. FFP or SFP. It depends on the type of the shooting/hunting. You can't buy a FFP scope for $500 though.

3. MOA or MRAD. It depends on your calculation preferences. Are you a metric or an imperial person?

4. Mil Dot reticle or something else? You will get an answer when you answer the questions above.

My advice is to do a homework and get some knowledge first. Then, save some money. Then save more and only then buy a good, clean glass that's made for the type of shooting you would like to do. Good luck.
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Thank you for your reply, I think I have some answers for those questions.
1) it's probably PRS and coyote hunting mainly in prairies( have deer scope 3-9)

2) I've seen some FFP under my budget ( Cabelas, falcon, millet) but don't have the opportunity to see them.

3) I can go both no problem imperial and metric. Just don't have an experience with scope calculations, what is better?
 
I think mil verses MOA doesn't matter a whole lot.
I've used both,but prefer MOA,because it's what I'm used to.
Guys say mil is easier.

I've had the bushnell LRSH 3-12x44 FFP , mil reticle.
The glass was excellent.

It just didn't have enough magnification for me.
If 12 power is enough for you,then,at $900,you can't go wrong.

I now have a S112 6-24 and am happy with it.
Next upgrade will be an NXS.

When Tomochan says you can't afford cheap glass, I now know what he means...lol

I've been through all the midrange optics, 6 to 8 hundred dollar stuff, and have lost money on the resale.

I've had a bushnell 3-16 elite 6500, Burris Veracity 3-16, Sightron Stac 3-16 and all were mediocre glass.
I don't care how many guys say they're great, I know they're not.

But then again I'm comparing them to $1300 + glass.

To me,glass is either good or it's not.
And Clarity trumps all.
It leads to reaso ,if it has excellent clarity,it should have all the other important features. Tracking,good turrets,etc.

The more mag,the better,for target shooting and you can hunt with a 6-24 ,just as well as a 3-12.

So if you got $700, look at Prophet River, they have a no tax,free shipping deal, monthly.
I just got a Sightron S111 6-24 for $1340 all in.

Put something on layaway and pay it out.
You'll be more pleased,in the long run.
 
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