machohugeaxe
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Scorpio 13 inch
- Thread starter Arcosdad
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How is the EM332A compared to the Savage Mark II? I'm looking into buying a bolt-action .22 lr rifle as my first gun and want to keep the cost down as much as possible. From what I've read though the Mark II has much better aftermarket support and better ergonomic design overall.
Mystic Precision
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- Summerland, BC
Having had the MkII, both will/may need some TLC to get operating well. The MKII mags can be a problem... EM mags tend to be much better made
Both can have ejection issues. Both can be rough to operate out of the box. The 332A trigger is far easier to modify for a great pull.
I have not bothered to look into aftermarket for the 332A as the included stock works so well. Again, with some basic mods, I end up with something that I use very competitively in rimfire PRS. I haven't tried but this is an Annie 54 action so it might fit into current chassis and stocks?????
Saying that, an annie 54 scope rail will fit with some slight mods to the grooves in the base. The new 332X comes with a nice rail.
Bolt handles for MKII and 332A should be modified if you want better operation.. although MKII does come in a more tactical set up now. The 332X has a nice bolt handle.
Of the many 332A's we have shot, they can be super accurate with SK/Lapua ammo... and seem to work better at very extended distances. A tuner can be a big help but that applies to all rimfires.
If you want plug and play, neither rifle is for you. But if you are ok with basic tuning and updates, both can work really well. If you have plans to change the barrel, neither mkii or 332A is for you. The 332X has an action that could make barrel swaps simple... but there are no barrels right now.
What I would love to see is the 332X action with the 332A barrel, longer length and threaded muzzle (some do, some dont). QC on the 332X seems to be much better overal (maybe the new 332As share similar specs?????)
No simple answers as the Scorpios can change from run to run. Savage MkIIs have solid reputation for being accurate but can be plagued with running issues (simple to fix but you still have to fix them)
with all the above said, I am running the Scorpio rifles now and don't own any MkIIs.
If you are interested in a prepped EM332A, send me a pm or email as I have one available.
Jerry
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Okay I see, thanks for the detailed reply. Price difference aside I still prefer the design and style of the Mark II, and the presence of adjustable AccuTrigger. The EM332A by comparison looks tacky, particularly the rear butt stock. I get that it's designed for ergonomics, but the shape of the curves are aesthetically unpleasing, reminiscent of a toy gun. I do like the paint job on yours though, which divides the curvy sections in a way that cleans up appearance somewhat. I appreciate the offer but it's not really my style, and I'm also looking forward to doing work on a gun myself, so I'd be losing out on the fun factor by getting a prepped gun
I'm not planning on doing much competitive shooting, so accuracy isn't the highest priority for me. Reliability and durability are more important, and aesthetic quality to a lesser degree. If Tenda were to sell a updated EM332A though at a competitive price I might prefer it over the Mark II. But right now I'm still in the window-shopping stage and haven't even registered for Firearm Safety training.
Kellog
For reference I shot 350rds in one day at Mapleseed and only had 2 casings gets 'caught' by the scope rail. I'll probably eventually notch it out a little like the CZ rails do.
I shot about 300rds before that day and still never cleaned it. I made a new stock for mine in a weekend (check my post history)
I tried some eley club and got a 1" group at 50y without even trying, just a bipod and my hand as a rear rest.
I shot about 300rds before that day and still never cleaned it. I made a new stock for mine in a weekend (check my post history)
I tried some eley club and got a 1" group at 50y without even trying, just a bipod and my hand as a rear rest.
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
It is a very Euro Centric style of stock... very comfy and has excellent ergonomics.
Stock material is surprisingly very good and building/modifying it is simple.
the Scorpios make fantastic DIY projects
Jerry
PS have played and help set up several CZ457s. These are fantastic platforms and easy to modify. I find the 332A/332X actions are faster and smoother to operate and the factory triggers can be improved to a match type feel (once all tuned up). Accuracy also seems to favor the 332A's in factory form (tested 8 332As so far). I have access to both types of rifles and I choose the 332A as my PRS rifle.
You will see I recommend the CZ457 all the time because most do not have the skills/interest to do the mods and fitting required on a 332 action. They could take it to a gunsmith for tuning and setup and still be well below many factory rifles... that also need TLC and $$ spent. The 332A/332X is my top pick today for a bolt rifle... by extension, the new Annie 1700 series would get the same nod. They would just cost a crap ton more.
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