Screwdrivers for guns... what to use?

I use hollow ground electricians screwdrivers, have a few different sets that I mix and match for the right fit. When not slipping is absolutely critical, I dip the tip in a little bit of lapping compound for extra bite. A fantastic trick a mechanic showed me.

This is the point you're missing when it comes to PROPER FIT

When a slot screwdriver doesn't fit correctly, the edges take up most of the stress upon seating or unseating the screw. Neither the screws nor the screwdriver blade were designed for that type of stress.

The blade should be bearing the stress evenly, without any slop or it will damage screws, no matter how coarse the grinding compound.

Your friend is a mechanic, I am a millwright and his trick works well but it doesn't stop galling the edges of the slots.
 
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Make custom drivers? Are there gun screwdrivers?

Yes. Both of the above are reasonable options. The worst possible choice is to try to use a standard carpenter's screwdriver to turn a gun screw. They are made differently. Gun screws have parallel side slots. Wood screws have tapered slots, wider at the top. The standard common carpenter screwdrivers are NOT compatible. They will mess up gun screws EVERY time. Wheeler's, Forster's, Brownell's, are just three of the gun screwdriver sets that I use. Many more are available. Exact fit is critical if you don't want to mess up the screw head. Even some (very few) of the common Canadian Tire 1/4" drive hex screwdriver bits will work, but look for parallel blade sides, not tapered. They must fit perfectly, exact width and depth and slot diameter, with no play at all. If you can't find what you need in a local store, mail order or grindstone is the only other good option.
 
I've got one of the bigger Wheeler sets too. Knock on wood I've used it quite a lot for about 3 years now and they are still all good. The big set isn't cheap but it comes with a lot of doubles for the smaller and thinner sizes. I've narrowed a couple of these down so they fit specific guns which I use them on frequently. That leaves the double at full width.

It's the NEW guns that come into my possession that are the possible culprits for broken bits. I learned a long time ago that putting the screw driver bit into the slot and giving the bit a few firm taps with a hammer will greatly aid with loosening the over tight screws. I'd like to say that this is why I've not broken a bit yet. But I'd be lying. There's a bit of luck in it as well. Plus knowing I have a fall back plan to tap them to loosen slightly I guess I stop at some reasonable torque value and get the small, medium or big hammer out depending on the size.
 
I'm not sure that many of the tips in any sort of set at HD would be suitable for guns. I've gotten a bunch of them from various hardware stores including HD and where they fail is that the faces right at the tip are not totally parallel. Instead they are tapered outwards even right at the tip. And that means you risk camming out of the slot if you don't use a good amount of pressure. Watch for that. SOME of them are good. But a lot fail in this particular way. After all who in blazes uses slot screws THESE days.... other than gun owners.
 
Some of us in this thread are lucky enough to have the tools necessary to properly grind the blades on screwdrivers. Most have to get by with what they can purchase. I've used a Dremel grinder and a small portable vice, that clamps on a table to hold screwdriver shanks, while I carefully grind the bit faces and edges. It works but it's tedious.

Many folks only need their screwdrivers for one firearm and are limited for space. They also don't have training on how to use tools properly and why they are designed with a particular shape.

When I was on the job in maintaining a large factory's equipment or installing equipment, I ground my screwdrivers meticulously. Especially if I was the only person assigned to a specific department. I was always surprised by the poor quality of the tools many red seal trades people carried as well as the lack of tools they had. A couple of guys had tool pouches that consisted of 4 different adjustable wrenches, one of which had a ball peen hammer head welded to the base loop. To say the least, following these "tradesmen" on a job often presented a challenge. Their flat screwdrivers were cheap types, intended for wood screws and doubled as drifts and chisels. Maybe they had a #2 Robertson in the pouch. The fasteners showed the abuse. The whole tool kit was rounded of with a pair of pump pliers of dubious quality.

The best advice I can give people here, is to use the proper tools for the job. If a kit is all you can afford, fine. Just learn how to keep the bits properly maintained. This can be done with hand held files.

The reason flat screwdrivers intended for wood screws are tapered, is for strength. It often takes a lot of torque to seat a screw into wood. That shouldn't be the case with flat slot machine screws, used for metal. Sheet metal is different.

I always knock $50 off the price of a rifle or pistol if I have to replace galled screws, which I find unsightly and which will often leave a nasty sliver behind or cause minor punctures that will bleed all over the firearm.

BCrider mentioned developing a habit of tapping solidly seated screws with a bit and hammer. Fine, I do it myself. The thing is, the bit used as the punch gets rounded off from the beating. Maybe not right away but it happens and this causes slips etc.

This isn't rocket science. It's mechanical. If something can break or go wrong, for just about any reason, whether it's competence related or the luck of the moment, it will go wrong.

I constantly come across firearms that people have owned for years and never stripped down, other than to brush some Hoppe's through the bore. These can be bears to get the screws out of. Care and patience are often the key to keeping those firearms looking good and maintaining value. That's when a good set of properly fitting screwdrivers comes in handy.
 
Wherever possible I replace the screws with socket head cap screws. It's only rarely possible, but an allan key works way better than a slot screwdriver.
 
Hi, thanks so much for recommending our tools! As you probably know, we're a small shop (about 15 of us) with a small ad budget compared to our competitors, so much of our new business comes from current happy customers.

You're right about the gun sets working double duty on sewing machines! I recently learned there's also many people who use them on antique furniture and musical instruments as well. No one wants to mess up a screw on those either!

Thanks again,
Joel
VP @ Chapman MFG
 
I highly recommend at least a medium decent torque driver for any screw going into a gun (unless its going into wood). More than half of all the issues I've had trying to remove screws came from screws that were set in way too tight to begin with.
 
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