Sell me on a new cartridge.
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nowarningshot
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Op has a 6.5x55, which could do anything a 243 could do and better. The gap seems above 3006, with the 45-70 covering close bush/defense.
While the 375 h&h can do anything a 300 or 338 can do, it really shines at close to moderate distance. Your missing anything at extended distances needing energy. There is also a giant gap in ammo prices for anything north of 300 magnums. Would imagine it's a big jump to 338 mag(been awhile since I've bought factory ammo), but 375 ammo could be over $6/shot, before this recent insanity.
While the 375 h&h can do anything a 300 or 338 can do, it really shines at close to moderate distance. Your missing anything at extended distances needing energy. There is also a giant gap in ammo prices for anything north of 300 magnums. Would imagine it's a big jump to 338 mag(been awhile since I've bought factory ammo), but 375 ammo could be over $6/shot, before this recent insanity.
You're right, I am lacking something with a little more oomph at range, however for the type of hunting that I do and the terrain I hunt leads me to prefer the shorter range thumpers.
I will realistically never take a shot over 300m with most being well inside of 200m. My attraction towards the .375 is mostly due to nostalgia and it's history but also to own a gun in something like .375H&H would make for a real centerpiece in my collection. I have been browsing 375 ammo prices lately and it seems like they range between $4.25-$8/round. This won't exactly be a weekend plinker at those prices. I don't see myself buying anything bigger than .375 (like 416 rigby etc.) since ammo prices get truly insane at that level.
I would eventually like to partake in long range target shooting in the range of 1000m. That's where I have been considering one of the more modern 6.5 cartridges or possibly a 30cal equivalent.
From my current collection:
1. 22LR - small game hunting, gravel pit plinking and soon to be long range .22LR bolt action.
2. .223/5.56 - Black rifle plinking, could be used on varmints.
3. 9mm - range toy
4. .38/.357 - range toy, could be used on varmints, small deer and hopefully one day wild boar.
5. 7.62x39 - range toy, could be used for a close range deer/boar rifle.
6. 6.5x55 - Medium-Large game hunting rifle (close range)
7. .308 - Medium-Large game hunting rifle (close range)
8. 30-06 - Medium-Large game hunting rifle (Intermediate range)
9. 45-70 - Large game and backpacker rifle (close range)
10. 12 gauge (grouse, clays, deer, plinking).
The .375 will slot in around the .30-06, hunting game within the same ranges but with much more power and more confidence if I ever find myself hunting in brown bear territory.
Long range hunting and long range target cartridges are the two main areas that I think I'm currently missing out on.
Hence WHY i suggested a 338-06 or a 35 W - jmo RJ
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Can't really go wrong with the .338 federal for woods hunting. Folks going out to 300 yds on pest critters will have a ton-o-fun with a .17 Rem fer sure.
I have never been to Ontario so I don't know thing-one about hunting in Ontario. However, as a guy with too many calibers (because I am a compulsive dumbie), I think you don't need another caliber. You can kill (marginally) nearly every thing that walks from any distance that most of us can shoot responsibly. I think you need a nicer gun. Now, I don't know what type of guns you have but selling them all and pick up the very best version of what you want is pretty gratifying. Pick your favorite caliber you currently own, sell them all, and get a truly awesome gun.
.375 H & H is a good choice, and a real classic. My suggestion of the 9.3 x 62 might be a better choice because of the type of hunting you do. Good article comparing the two here: https://www.rifleshootermag.com/editorial/375-hh-mag-vs-93x62-cartridge-clash/380081
I would chose the 9.3 x 62 over the .375 H & H for a few reasons:
(Way) More than enough power and range for your type of hunting
- (Way) More than enough power and range for your type of hunting
- Way less recoil.
- Not a "belted" magnum; ease of reloading.
- It's a Continental "Mauser" calibre (and I am a "Continental" Mauser fan)
- There are lots of fine used rifles available in Canada right now for obscenly low prices
- Ammo is (more) available here in Canada than in the US from reputable Manufacturers on the continent; and reloaing components and dies are available.
.375 H & H is a good choice, and a real classic. My suggestion of the 9.3 x 62 might be a better choice because of the type of hunting you do. Good article comparing the two here: https://www.rifleshootermag.com/editorial/375-hh-mag-vs-93x62-cartridge-clash/380081
I would chose the 9.3 x 62 over the .375 H & H for a few reasons:
(Way) More than enough power and range for your type of hunting
You won't go wrong with either.
- (Way) More than enough power and range for your type of hunting
- Way less recoil.
- Not a "belted" magnum; ease of reloading.
- It's a Continental "Mauser" calibre (and I am a "Continental" Mauser fan)
- There are lots of fine used rifles available in Canada right now for obscenly low prices
- Ammo is (more) available here in Canada than in the US from reputable Manufacturers on the continent; and reloaing components and dies are available.
I'm not going to lie, a big part of the appeal of 375 for me is the "exotic factor". While I am sure that the 9.3x62 is formidable round and would be a perfect alternative to the 375 for my hunting applications, it seems closer in stopping power to the 30-06, where as I am looking for something that stands apart more from my current calibers.
30-06 - 2,900 FT-LB
9.3X62 - 3,500 FT-LB
.375H&H - 4,300 FT-LB
Also after doing a quick search I'm seeing more .375H&H ammo in stock as well as a larger variety of new manufacture firearms. But you're right both ammo and the rifle will likely cost much more.
nowarningshot
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Years ago my first 375 h&h was a interarms, which is a rebadged Zastava. Was not expensive, I believe about $600, in 20yrs ago land. One doesn't need to buy a $3k h&h, also second hand big magnums typically sit in safes ....shot very little because of ammo price and recoil.
I'm currently considering CZ, Winchester and Ruger offerings. Most seem to be in the ballpark of $2,000.
Those are good rifles, particularly for the money. - dan
Only the “uneducated” would think that the 9.3x63 is closer to the 30-06 than it is from the 375H&H… I’ve read a lot about the 9.3 and it is one special round that is misunderstood and that look ok on paper, but shines in the field hunting from 0 to 400 yards(personally I keep my shots inside 200m)! It is also an easy to reload cartridge, with mild recoil compare to the mighty 375, so a lighter rifle can be managed successfully!
Very under rated cartrdige. I think an improved version would be awesome. - dan
p.Rundle
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If you want to shoot long range for target shooting maybe a .338 Lapua, .300 PRC, 7mm PRC, or 6.5 PRC? Ammo will be expensive. IDK if you "need" anything though.
Honestly, if all I had was .22, 7.62x39, .308, .30-06 and 12 gauge I'd be happy. I think you're doing fine.
Honestly, if all I had was .22, 7.62x39, .308, .30-06 and 12 gauge I'd be happy. I think you're doing fine.
that is indeed a great cartridge. for the longer distance some are using the 250 accubond but i do think the 9.3 shines in everything and more and the creator did a so good job that when you think on what he was used in the past none should be worried about the paper look ... of course with good bullet placement but a 458 win mag in the hoof of the bison wont do better ...
Without getting into a debate about muzzle energy, which I think can be deceptive, the relative difference between a factory 9.3x62 (285 grs/2,350 fps) and a factory .375 H&H ( 300 grs/2,550 fps) is 200 fps and 15 grs of lead. My 9.3 handloads run at 2,480, so the difference is essentially 70 fps and 15 grs. I doubt there are many game animals that will know the difference.
