Semi automatic M53 (or mg42) build *high res warning*

No conspiracy here, put the tin-foil away please.
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conspiracy?
And I was just thinking how great it was people get around..and you think i was going tinfoil?.

its like, knowing his business and knowing your hobby i didn't think it was odd at all.

now please the Them to turn off the the microphones in my house , to move the van and black helicopter outside the house. yeesh! ha ha
 
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johnone said:
CONTACT 148;
80% receivers DO NOT exist under Candian law.... Look for clarification very soon.
John
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interesting, well you would know and i dont

my 80% suggestion earlier was to make it so the builder actually "made" the reciever plate it would be cut to shape and thickness and the builder would drill the holes and or mill where needed


Im glad there will be clarification soon (as to 80% recievers) it will be of legal benifet to us all
 
rifelbob said:
wow thats awsom. I have acess to a shop, can i build a sten?
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Well, there are sten kits available here in canada. If you can find one here, then yes legally you are allowed to do your own build. You should ask around here for information from some of the guys that have built a sten already. If their semi-automatic design was good enough for the rcmp when they made it, then that should help you out a little bit, but in the end they are who will determine the legality of your gun (from what i have gathered and have been told).

Maybe start a new post, and you can get some info from those who have already built stens :).
 
The open bolt semi auto Stens that were being made have been classified as prohibited. This has spilled over onto the very semi auto closed bolt SAS version which is under review. Several SAS guns were successfully registered.
So, at this moment, there is no definitive answer about whether you can build yourself a Sten type semi automatic firearm or not.
There are parts from Stens demilitarized by the Canadian government readily available. The bolts and barrels are cut. The magazine housings cannot be reused.
There was a complete set of parts, except for the magazine housing, but including the SAS conversion parts, recently offered in the EE.
 
johnone said:
TIRIAQ;
Well explained, but do you really think many will listen....

You have it 100% The BATF inspect records in the US, gee I wonder if they provide info to the RCMP re Canadian sales.
Maybe the US Embassy has a full time BATF officer stationed there just for the hell of it.
I think that the next thing we should do is take up a collection so when some of the home builder/importers go ahead with their projects we can send them fresh fruit once a month at their new "federal home"
John
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Yes they do, I met and dealt with one of them a number of years ago.

Do they liase with the RCMP? Of course.
 
Of course there is a BATFE liason representative in Canada who works with Canadian police. Smuggling of arms across the border is an issue of concern on both sides of the border. That's why it is so foolish when someone plays silly games with cross border shopping.
 
tiriaq said:
Of course there is a BATFE liason representative in Canada who works with Canadian police. Smuggling of arms across the border is an issue of concern on both sides of the border. That's why it is so foolish when someone plays silly games with cross border shopping.
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And then tells everyone about it on the internet.... :rolleyes:
 
Well you do know the one solution to this problem is not participating in actually fixing this issue of people having to cross border shop ;). For valid possible legal repercussions granted, but they technically do have the power to supply such parts to canadians, if they made an effort to tie up any loose ends on liability and set up some sort of legal waiver to be signed to cover their end.

But, its like a never ending circle. No parts kits do to lack of market for them, and no market because no one has parts kits to build. Right now, no one is willing to break that cycle due to legalities, which is understandable completely, just saddening to me :(.
 
MJ,

Your first paragraph makes very little sense to me, but then, if I was nervous about having imported a parts kit illegally, it might make me type a big mess of confusion too.

*shrug*

Good luck!

NS
 
The one place here in canada that does have parts, won't sell them. Yet they recognize the cross border issue, but would not at least "try" to come up with a solution.
Although, like i said, from a legal point of view i know their concerns, but there must be a way they can legally cover their ends, while still being able to tend to the demand with their much desired supply.

I personally would be willing to sign a waiver, a contract, etc. stating my full responsibility of, and intention for, parts bought from them, if to cover their end of the deal legally. If only given the opportunity to purchase such parts.

I do not know how i could explain it much clearer if that does not suffice.

This has nothing to do with importing parts, i am saying:
The parts are already in canada, it would be convenient if they were made available to average canadians.

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Klunk said:
so...

hows that semi mg42 workin out Michel???


I really want to buy one....do you have the A OK to make them yet????????

??????
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OK to make, yeah, but i'm waiting for an okay, or well information regarding a receiver. They've yet to get back to me on that. Don't know how long until that comes unfortunately. I'm trying to contact the US supplier of the receiver stampings, for their batfe approval letter stating the non-gun (non-receiver) status of the stampings, to possibly further persuade the legal importation of the parts into canada. Just playing the waiting game for now... *sigh*
 
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NAVY SHOOTER;
Happy Easter to you and your family....

Are we the nasty people who won't sell kits in Canada ??

I can just see us explaining to the judge "but your honor the customer signed a waiver we can't be guilty"....

They just don't get it do they ??

JOHN
 
no where did i say nasty. And i also did state i understand your legal stance.

edit: Nevermind then, nothing i say will change your mind. If it is a requirement you ask in order to qualify to purchase such parts from you, then i will just have to find a way to meet that requirement. It is "those who already have the gun for the parts in question, and simply need replacement parts" ? If (and this is a big "if") i have my build approved, etc. Does that qualify myself to order replacement parts, because i will eventually need a rear sight base, and while possible, i would rather not machine out my own.
 
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