semi recommendation for skeet/sporting clays

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ideally i would want a o/u but for recoil purposes i am considering shooting a semi. my main concern is that will a semi cycle fast enough for doubles in skeet. especially if i want to break the before reaching centre line---thanks
 
If you watch Wild TV, have a look at the Benelli commercial with Tom Knapp and his partner shooting Clay Birds with semi-auto shotguns,, I would suspect he could shoot the 2nd bird 4-6 times before it reached the centre stake. In the average world,

All semi-auto shotguns will cycle faster than you can ever aim and fire a shot.....
 
IMO if you can't handle the recoil of target loads in an O/U 12 Gauge then you're in the wrong hobby...

However, with that said, everyone's mileage varies and it's not my place to force my opinions on others.

Regarding semi-auto shotguns, I've seen many great rounds of skeet shot beside me with the Beretta AL391 Ulrika. It didn't seem out of place at all next to our O/U guns, and followup speed was never a question.

-M
 
Even in International skeet where the targets are faster and smaller any semi-automatic cycles fast enough to hit the targets before the centre line.

My favourite is the Beretta 391.
 
Felt recoil depends mainly on gun fit, weight of the gun, load used (the less the better) and proper form. Like Claybuster said, the 391 is indeed the way to go if you're looking at the semi.
 
IMO if you can't handle the recoil of target loads in an O/U 12 Gauge then you're in the wrong hobby...
-M

I guess I'm in the wrong hobby then....

I wish someone would have told me that a lot earlier in my career. :D

Sorry, there is 0 truth to that statement. Look at all of the competitive shooters who are using recoil reducing equipment, or shooting reduced loads or shooting sub-gauge ammo.

Recoil is not your friend in target sports.

Oh, and a 391 is a fantastic choice.

Brad.
 
I guess I'm in the wrong hobby then....

I wish someone would have told me that a lot earlier in my career. :D

Sorry, there is 0 truth to that statement. Look at all of the competitive shooters who are using recoil reducing equipment, or shooting reduced loads or shooting sub-gauge ammo.

Recoil is not your friend in target sports.

Oh, and a 391 is a fantastic choice.

Brad.

I'll second this! Take a regular O/U shotgun. Remove the backbored barrel and make sure it has a tight bore of .729" and no porting. Toss away the recoil absorbing system that might be in the rear stock. Remove that sticky-soft Kickeez recoil pad and screw on a nice black plastic butt plate.

Done? Good. Now lets go shoot 750 3 dram 1 1/8oz 12ga shells on an average trap shooting weekend competition. But I'm gonna still use my Beretta Teknys shotgun ok?

Modern O/U and single barrel target guns have so many recoil reducing operatons done to them that if you shoot one you have no place putting down semi's. And if a shooter truly believes that "you might be in the wrong sport" statement, then I'm guessing you've never shot enough shells in a shoot-off (for example) or even at all to know. Recoil, however light, grinds down a shooter. Maybe not after 100 targets on a league night but definately on a weekend marathon.
 
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I guess I'm in the wrong hobby then....

I wish someone would have told me that a lot earlier in my career. :D

Sorry, there is 0 truth to that statement. Look at all of the competitive shooters who are using recoil reducing equipment, or shooting reduced loads or shooting sub-gauge ammo.

Recoil is not your friend in target sports.

Oh, and a 391 is a fantastic choice.

Brad.

I'm not arguing the benefits of recoil reducing equipment for faster follow-ups, I'm just saying if 'recoil' hurts you from a 12Ga with target loads... well, you're different than the guys and gals I used to shoot with when I was on the National Team.

Besides, I said the 391 was a good choice if you HAD to go semi - you gotta give me some credit there! :D

-M
 
I'm not arguing the benefits of recoil reducing equipment for faster follow-ups, I'm just saying if 'recoil' hurts you from a 12Ga with target loads... well, you're different than the guys and gals I used to shoot with when I was on the National Team.

Besides, I said the 391 was a good choice if you HAD to go semi - you gotta give me some credit there! :D

-M

National Team? Awesome and congrats on reaching that level. What you're forgetting is that back then everyone was way tougher than today's shooters. I was a tough, recoil absorbing, clay smasher years back. O/U's were all I owned except for a pump for hunting with 3" magnums when needed. But if today's technology were available to you back then just think of all the Gold Medals you'd be staring at now!;)
 
National Team? Awesome and congrats on reaching that level. What you're forgetting is that back then everyone was way tougher than today's shooters. I was a tough, recoil absorbing, clay smasher years back. O/U's were all I owned except for a pump for hunting with 3" magnums when needed. But if today's technology were available to you back then just think of all the Gold Medals you'd be staring at now!;)

Hahahahaha... well, I dunno if I'd say THAT... ;)

However, I did hold the U-21 title for 4 years until I had to hang it up for College and money reasons. :)

Some of the guys had recoil-buffer stocks on their Perazzis, and I HATED them. HAAAAAATED them. Glad they liked 'em because I wouldn't give 'em 5 bucks for the damn things.

My Beretta 686 SP and my shoulder were all I needed, thanks. Helps that I'm 6'3" and at the time I was a College Football 320lbs, of course. :D

I got into the game shooting a Browning Auto-5 in ATA for ####s and giggles, so I know why some fellas/gals love their semi's... I just think a quality O/U can't be beat for what I used to use 'em for.

-M
 
IMO if you can't handle the recoil of target loads in an O/U 12 Gauge then you're in the wrong hobby...

However, with that said, everyone's mileage varies and it's not my place to force my opinions on others.

Regarding semi-auto shotguns, I've seen many great rounds of skeet shot beside me with the Beretta AL391 Ulrika. It didn't seem out of place at all next to our O/U guns, and followup speed was never a question.

-M


wtf you mean in the wrong hobby---i want to break targets not my face and shoulder---
 
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