Set The Record Straight with Transporting Ammo/Pistols Together
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His f**king trunk was locked, ok Wendy
Sorry your ####ing highness I forgot your lord of all canadian firearm laws my bad.
Your remark to plinker's post sounding like a retort. If the cops didn't have an issue why would you? Sorry I hurt your feelings
As an FYI the Quebec Law 9 in not a criminal code violation.
That is correct. Trigger locks on all guns and in a large case that was latched w/ no lock
I wasn't sure if the cop was going to sh1t or shoot when I told him "hand guns". I was actually glad their Supervisor was there, I got the impression he calmed the younger cops down and was schooling them in how to deal with this situation/scenario.
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- Burnaby, BC
I suppose if it didn't have a lock you couldn't have said no. If it were in a locked box, legally you could have said no and it would be in your right.
Ditto...
Thats why I asked,I was kind of surprised how it played it out. My comment wasnt becouse you didnt have the case locked but more so for the fact the cops handled it so well.
I was probably within my rights to tell them to give me the traffic ticket and "F" off, and this tactic had been used many times by myself when I was younger. Somehow things just never seemed to go my way when I used this "tactic"
. The law of reasonableness ruled that day {who knew, cops can be reasonable}.
No, ammo doesn't have to be locked to my knowledge. When i go to the range I bring an old Cnd army ammo can filled with all sorts, its not locked. When transporting or storing firearms, your ammo can't {or maybe shouldn't is a better word as I'm not sure on the law} store your ammo with your guns...ie guns locked, ammo separate.
It is NOT illegal to open a case at the officer's request. Urban legend that is revived every day.
From the Criminal Code of Canada.
25.1 Person acting at direction of
public officer
(10) A person who commits an act or omission
that would otherwise constitute an offence
is justified in committing it if
(a) a public officer directs him or her to
commit that act or omission and the person
believes on reasonable grounds that the public
officer has the authority to give that direction;
and
(b) he or she believes on reasonable grounds
that the commission of that act or omission is
for the purpose of assisting the public officer
in the public officer’s law enforcement duties.
Limitation
(11) Nothing in this section justifies
(a) the intentional or criminally negligent
causing of death or bodily harm to another
person;
(b) the wilful attempt in any manner to obstruct,
pervert or defeat the course of justice;
or
(c) conduct that would violate the ###ual integrity
of an individual.
Compliance with requirements
(13) Nothing in this section relieves a public
officer of criminal liability for failing to comply
with any other requirements that govern the
collection of evidence.
No lock for ammo required, and can be in the same box (even a charged mag) as restricted.
I can't verify this with legislation though. I never looked for it.
I believe it is likely under the explosives act or something like that.
Sorry but that's not true. 2 locks on restricted between you and the gun. Only restriction on ammo is it can't be in the gun (can't transport a loaded firearm).
Ammuntion cannot be transported with another class of explosive (ie raw gunpowder, fireworks ect) and cannot be transported with primers (Primers loaded in the ammuntion are part of the ammunition and don't count for this rule).
Other than that there are some rules on how much ammo you can transport based on the type of vehicle and such but there are no rules in the federal acts that state it can't be in the same case as the gun (i believe some provinces have their own rules though ie Ontario has a ammuntion act or some such and it may have it's own transport rules)
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- Burnaby, BC
Well I suppose my firearms instructor may have been wrong. Or perhaps you have the right to refuse so long as you are in compliance and have proper documents. The cops would need justification to see your firearms during transport, no? Just make sure you are somewhere between your home and your range when you get stopped eh?
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- Banana Republik of Kebekistan
Chemo,
I am troubled by your reply. I re-read Law 9 and it does not state anywhere that ammos must not be transported in the same container as the firearm.
http://www.fqtir.qc.ca/pdf/loi_9_en.pdf
What is stated in a course guide is not law. As I do not have a copy of it, can you tell if the course guide provides a reference to a law (other than Law 9) that prescribes they must be transported separately?
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