Setting Up AR For A Training Course

At the ORA CQB matches there are always far more issues with bad ammo, especially reloads than there are with rifles and equipment. Be as prepared as you can be, even if it come down to playing dress-up in your basement. There are good single point slings out there, I would recommend you figure out how you are going to mount it to your rifle before you make a final decision on the sling as there are a myriad of connector styles.

I showed up to my first ever CQB match with a two point sling jury rigged and looped through the rear sling mount on an A2 stock with a 20" AR and it was the worst day I have ever had. Everyone was good about it, but you do not want to be that guy....trust me.
 
Hoping to take a carbine course next summer.

I have a Norinco with a 10.5" barrel as one rifle. Plan to get an NEA 10.5 aswell/

Looking for help/guidance for a single point sling mount. And type of sling.

A tactical type charging handle.
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The NEA rifles are set up really well for the Vickers sling and push button. It mounts perfectly onto the collapsible buttstock, then onto the fore end with a push button.


There are good single point slings out there, I would recommend you figure out how you are going to mount it to your rifle before you make a final decision on the sling as there are a myriad of connector styles
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Single point slings are always recommended by the Service CQB guys, however two point adjustable slings work the same, and provide the user with a wider range of options for other styles of shooting.

A single point sling on a 20" barreled AR is not at all what I would recommend.
 
Farmboy said:
The NEA rifles are set up really well for the Vickers sling and push button. It mounts perfectly onto the collapsible buttstock, then onto the fore end with a push button.




Single point slings are always recommended by the Service CQB guys, however two point adjustable slings work the same, and provide the user with a wider range of options for other styles of shooting.

A single point sling on a 20" barreled AR is not at all what I would recommend.
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Agreed, I was making more of a point around me not having figured out what worked for my needs and showing up woefully unprepared. I am running a blue force gear vcas two point sling with sewn in QD attachments on my 20", which I now only use for longer range work, and a two point is a far better choice on a full size gun. The original poster is running a 10.5" Norinco with another (an NEA )the same size on the way. A single point works well here, I use one on my 10.5"for CQB, but have played around with the two point Blue Force on it as well. For ORA style matches I would recommend a single point. For more actual movement, running and transitions the two point has added benefits to it. Ultimately user preference.... body size and shape, fitness levels and purpose all will play a role in final selection of a sling.

I am set up to use either on both my rifles and have the flexibility to do so. But equipment decisions need to be made to allow this in terms of stocks and and or sling attachments to get him started off.
 
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Just wondering, is it better to utilise the QD mounting points on the Rail/Stock or go with the before mentioned Burnseed (GG&G/Troy/DD) style for the rear mount? I'm setting my build up for some possible CQB courses/matches and had been thinking of this particular aspect.
 
Personal preference.

I first started with my VCAS sling hooked to the very front of the rail and the rear of the buttstock.

I then switched to the very start of the rail (closest to the upper receiver) and a sling plate located right behind the lower.

Now I have my sling attached to about midway down the rail and back to the rear of the buttstock.
 
Now that this thread has gotten back on track and the info/ideas are flowing, I'm sitting here with about the stupidest look on my face. Saying "holy crap"

I will do some Googling of the mentioned ideas and systems. I know I am better to go with "A" sling on both guns.

My expereince with my Norinco is about 700 rounds standing at a bench, shooting. All my shooting so far has been with a handgun. The carbine stuff is extremely new to me. I certainly understand that this is the beginning of a long journey. I also understand that you can spend good money up front instead of always buying cheap and keep spending.

I do thank you fellas for taking the time and interest to get me set up for this. It is really appreciated.

Sean.
 
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as Farmboy stated
 
Tried to post one of my FB videos showing sling use.


[video]https://www.facebook.com/v/10151229270050086[/video]


This might have worked now. It was the first time testing out the Contour camera, so it's just very basic.
 
Nothing, it will attach direct to the collapsible butt stock and to the sling loop under the front sight.

While the sling loop under the front sight isn't ideal, it does work. There are other options including using the wire loop which slides onto the forearm, the forearm adaptor, push button adaptors for the front sight as well as others. If you might change out the forearm for a rail, then I'd hold off on using these other options.
 
Think a 2 point sling will be the way to go. However as I'm finding, it won't be teh simple ist thing to hook up to the rifle.

The rear mounting piece that goes on the buffer tube/stock, would having the back of the sling mounted there cause any issues for shouldering the rifle? Where the nut holds the tube on.............

Hope I got that right.
 
You can punch out the rivet that holds the bottom sling loop, and then fix the sling loop on the side (where it should be) - that's what that thing is on the side of the Norc FSB is for- using what ever hardware you have lying around (small nut and bolt will do-with some loc-tite). Then all you need to do is fit the sling - the Vickers is the way to go. If you're so inclined you can fit a loop to replace the receiver end plate - they're pretty cheap and easy to install. Either way you'll have a great time on the course and pick up things that never entered your head before.
 
While some people I have a lot of respect for preach the KISS concept for their carbine, I still have all the doodads my heart desires. But what I have learned is the important part is to make sure it works. Showing up the day of the course with something new on your rifle/carbine or a new gear loadout is asking for trouble. Go spend some time on the range with your set up to make sure it works. At the very least spend some time doing some dry fire ahead of time.

And you are bringing a back up rifle, which is good. Scratch that, IT SHOULD BE MANDATORY. I was on an "by invite only course" when my only rifle :bigHug::bigHug::bigHug::bigHug: the bed catastrophically. I had a spare secondary, but had total confidence in my primary. I will never make that mistake again.
 
Max Owner, I use a Magpul MS3 with the Magpul ASAP Sling attachment on my 10.5. I know it's not a Vickers sling but I feel that you can get faster shoulder transitions (for as much as they count for anything) with the single point. The MS3 is much improved over their MS2. You can find the MS2 cheap right now, so don't be suckered into buying one, it's a poor execution of the concept. The ASAP sling plate is a solid unit but I did find it a little more bothersome when staking the castle nut. You have to be more mindful of your muzzle with a single point, especially when taking a knee so you don't dig the muzzle into the dirt.
 
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