Sheild rifleworks or unique alpine in .308

blakeyboy said:
20” is as short as you want on 62k psi short action cartridges. Or never take a field shot without hearing protection. If you have no experience with short barrels you don’t know what you don’t know. A 16” 52k factory ammo munchkin 6.5 Grendel is as far as you wanna go and as blasty and rude as 20” 308 if not a bit more so.

The short barrel fad is for suppressors. Which we can’t have so you’ll regret it.
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I actually do appreciate this advice. I do have some experience with short barrels and convinced myself that 4" less length would be even more handy in 308 which is my favourite all around calibre.
 
blakeyboy said:
20” is as short as you want on 62k psi short action cartridges. Or never take a field shot without hearing protection. If you have no experience with short barrels you don’t know what you don’t know. A 16” 52k factory ammo munchkin 6.5 Grendel is as far as you wanna go and as blasty and rude as 20” 308 if not a bit more so.

The short barrel fad is for suppressors. Which we can’t have so you’ll regret it.
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So then something like this

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<a href="https://www.reliablegun.com/aero-pr...er-spearhead-machine-4-port-brake-mdt-vertica">this</a>

Or

https://firearmsoutletcanada.com/ae...ded-sendero-light-fluted-apbr01040005-.html#/

<a href="https://firearmsoutletcanada.com/ae...ded-sendero-light-fluted-apbr01040005-.html#/">or</a>


Would make more sense?
 
I have the Unique you pictured, they took 10% off when i bought mine. Only downside to it is i find the stock a little chunky. Its a nice rifle though.
I also have a 14inch 300wm built on a Howa, and in honesty the noise on both is not an issue for the shooter, people standing to the sides maybe, me not so much. Additionally a little linear comp etc, and the noise is even less an issue.
I look at the 12in 308 as being like a 7.62x39, and the 14in 300wm as a 308.
 
I’m curious… have you been hunting before, and what type of hunting are you planning on doing?

Not trying to sound like a “fudd” but, you have to be practical. I get having a pistol grip… yes it’s ergonomic, etc, etc. Collapsable butt stock, sure. Nothing wrong with that. In most hunting situations the aim is for one good shot. The benefits of said features will only gain you an advantage in a follow-up situation… so that’s a pile of “doe” spent on an accurate follow-up shot. Kind of goes against the whole principle of a good hunt. Now… if we are taking hogs or yotes on the other hand. Have at it.

Large capacity detachable magazine? Hogs and yotes aside… it’s overkill for most situations. I know smaller mags exist…but, there isn’t much of an advantage to a detachable magazine on a straight-up hunting rig. Maybe if you are driving around in the truck and you don’t want the C.O. to catch with a loaded gun. Making the gun safe is quicker I guess. Quick change of bullet types on-the-fly if you’re that type of guy. Idk. Maybe you just want to be xtra safe. That’s cool… for truck hunting. Just make sure you take at least two mags with you. No detachable magazine means nothing to loose, drop, or catch on sheet.

Just my two cents…
 
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BeaverMeat said:
I’m curious… have you been hunting before, and what type of hunting are you planning on doing?

Not trying to sound like a “fudd” but, you have to be practical. I get having a pistol grip… yes it’s ergonomic, etc, etc. Collapsable butt stock, sure. Nothing wrong with that. In most hunting situations the aim is for one good shot. The benefits of said features will only gain you an advantage in a follow-up situation… so that’s a pile of “doe” spent on an accurate follow-up shot. Kind of goes against the whole principle of a good hunt. Now… if we are taking hogs or yotes on the other hand. Have at it.

Large capacity detachable magazine? Hogs and yotes aside… it’s overkill for most situations. I know smaller mags exist…but, there isn’t much of an advantage to a detachable magazine on a straight-up hunting rig. Maybe if you are driving around in the truck and you don’t want the C.O. to catch with a loaded gun. Making the gun safe is quicker I guess. Quick change of bullet types on-the-fly if you’re that type of guy. Idk. Just make sure you take at least two mags with you. No detachable magazine means nothing to loose, drop, or catch on sheet.

Just my two cents…
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I've done some hunting in Hawaii and it was a blast.

But we were using 5.56 semi autos for hogs and goats.

My brothers and co-workers have been egging me on to go hunting the last 3 years and I figured this is the year to get it done.

Only plan on hunting deer to start and keeping it within 300 yards.
 
seaslug said:
I've done some hunting in Hawaii and it was a blast.

But we were using 5.56 semi autos for hogs and goats.

My brothers and co-workers have been egging me on to go hunting the last 3 years and I figured this is the year to get it done.

Only plan on hunting deer to start and keeping it within 300 yards.
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If you intend to just hunt deer or the likes, I’d just get a boring fudd gun. Something that can get scratched and not loose sleep over it.

Ruger GSR 16 if you want the detachable mag. Maybe the Ruger ranch. Someone said the Tikka compact. Ruger 77 RSI. Idk. Remington 600/660/Mohawk if you can find one.

The guns listed in this post are designed for a bi-pod in a fixed position blasting hogs or targets. Maybe blasting out of the truck too.
 
Just to add for muzzle devices, I have run the arts one meant for 300blk out on 308s and 300wm as well. Its a little linear break and flash suppressor. They still sell them. IMG_3214.jpeg


I also have cup style ones, literally just an empty tube that threads on, they do a great job directing noise down range. Quick example of what they look likeIMG_3215.jpeg


I have also had them made same diameter as the barrel like this
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Even at an inch or two they really help with sbr guns.
 
BeaverMeat said:
If you intend to just hunt deer or the likes, I’d just get a boring fudd gun. Something that can get scratched and not loose sleep over it.

Ruger GSR 16 if you want the detachable mag. Maybe the Ruger ranch. Someone said the Tikka compact. Ruger 77 RSI. Idk. Remington 600/660/Mohawk if you can find one.

The guns listed in this post are designed for a bi-pod in a fixed position blasting hogs or targets. Maybe blasting out of the truck too.
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My co-workers said the same thing. They purchased cheap .308s under 500 for the rifle and then put cheap lpvo on them.

What's the fun of a fudd gun?

If I get something like these then I'll be able to switch up barrels and build off one of these platforms?
 
I am in the process of building a Screech Owl setup in .308 for myself, basically like that one at RDSC you shared. We have built two of them at work recently (one in .223 and one in .308), and they are quite nice.
That said, I'm not sure if you've handled one in person or not but it is a fairly hefty setup, especially once it's all built out. The .308 one at RDSC you shared weighs 8.1lbs unloaded without a scope, which is about 1.6lbs heavier than a Sig Cross (+ glass & rings). A Screech Owl setup in .308 is often pushing 10lbs once set up, which is pretty heavy for a hunting rifle imo. The stock on the Screech Owl is surprisingly solid, which is nice for a PDW type stock because that isn't generally their strong suit and they usually wobble like crazy but this one only moves slightly. The rifle/chassis overall reminds me of a better designed and executed CZ Trail, that remedies all the issues with that platform.
I think for what you're after and the distance you plan to shoot with it, a custom Screech Owl build would do you well but I would handle one first before you buy to see if the weight bothers you. If you do a lot of stalking and trekking through the bush when hunting, you may want a lighter setup, even if it is shorter.

Anyway, back to work for me. That's my two cents, hope it helps with your decision!
 
SilentKnight said:
I am in the process of building a Screech Owl setup in .308 for myself, basically like that one at RDSC you shared. We have built two of them at work recently (one in .223 and one in .308), and they are quite nice.
That said, I'm not sure if you've handled one in person or not but it is a fairly hefty setup, especially once it's all built out. The .308 one at RDSC you shared weighs 8.1lbs unloaded without a scope, which is about 1.6lbs heavier than a Sig Cross (+ glass & rings). A Screech Owl setup in .308 is often pushing 10lbs once set up, which is pretty heavy for a hunting rifle imo. The stock on the Screech Owl is surprisingly solid, which is nice for a PDW type stock because that isn't generally their strong suit and they usually wobble like crazy but this one only moves slightly. The rifle/chassis overall reminds me of a better designed and executed CZ Trail, that remedies all the issues with that platform.
I think for what you're after and the distance you plan to shoot with it, a custom Screech Owl build would do you well but I would handle one first before you buy to see if the weight bothers you. If you do a lot of stalking and trekking through the bush when hunting, you may want a lighter setup, even if it is shorter.

Anyway, back to work for me. That's my two cents, hope it helps with your decision!
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I have not handled one.

I did check the weight on it and was surprised by it. I thought that it would have been lighter. The pork sword set up is quite a bit lighter at 6.5 lbs.

I might better off setting up a PR precision chassis with tikka action and then have it modified to my liking.
 
seaslug said:
My co-workers said the same thing. They purchased cheap .308s under 500 for the rifle and then put cheap lpvo on them.

What's the fun of a fudd gun?

If I get something like these then I'll be able to switch up barrels and build off one of these platforms?
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Doesn’t have to be cheap… just practical. A chassis with a pistol grip isn’t going to add anything useful in a dear hunting environment unless you want that follow-up… which means trying to hit a running deer after you hit it’s spine… or the intestines. Yuk.

It’s better to just avoid that from happening and get some practice.

Also… never cheap out on optics.
 
You do you but I just strap the shoulder sling across my back if I need to climb hard terrain.

I have a 22in barrel Tikka with the radial brake adding like an extra 2in (for aesthetics). Yet I wouldn't hesistate to go 24 ot 26in for my next setup.

I guess the barrel sometimes hits branches in reall overgrown forest but I'd take velocity over that minor incovienience.

I shot my bull elk this year 5km from camp. So I am not an extreme mountain hunter but I do hike with my gear.

Edit: I hunt with my Sordins on all day.
 
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