Shell stuck in 858 help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!pics!

don't know if you saw but the primer has been struck, therefore no bullet.

tiriaq said:
Reading this thread is painful.
In my years of running a shop, things stuck in barrels, with the misery compounded by ill advised attempts to dislodge them, were some of the greatest challenges.
There have been some good suggestions.
Kroil is a superior product.
There have been some really, really bad ones.
Here is a method that should work, and will not do any harm if it doesn't.
You will need a short piece of rod that will just barely slip into the muzzle. Brass would be fine. A short piece of dowel would actually be OK if used only for this method. It must be a tight slip fit.
Fill the bore with oil, almost to the muzzle. Start your plunger into the bore. Give it a good, sharp rap with a hammer. The hydraulic pressure should pop out the case. There will be a mess. Obviously, you will have to plug the gas port.
If you want to try hammering the case out, you want a piece of smooth steel rod of the largest diameter that will just clear the case neck. A piece of O-1 or W-1 drill rod would be ideal. It is available in many diameters. Cut the rod so that only a couple of inches project from the muzzle.
A good crack with a fairly heavy hammer should do the job.
Stop, take a deep breath, and take the time to get the proper tools.
Try the hydraulic method first.
Incidentally, the hydraulic method is a really good way of removing stuck live rounds. First hit will drive the bullet back into the case, and flood the powder. Top up the bore, and the second hit will expell the mess.
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looks like a pit stop on the way home for oil, rod, and various things lol. Thanks for your help.

tiriaq said:
That is why I said, "Incidentally.....".

If you don't want to plug the gas port, just fill the bore up to the gas port, and use a longer plunger.
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If your rod isn't a close fit, it could be wrapped with electrical tape at the end, to seal as much as possible.
It'll be messy. There will likely be some oil squirted back out, and a bit of an eruption when the case comes out.
 
sounds like the zits I had in junior high lol

tiriaq said:
If your rod isn't a close fit, it could be wrapped with electrical tape at the end, to seal as much as possible.
It'll be messy. There will likely be some oil squirted back out, and a bit of an eruption when the case comes out.
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well its official. i've tried everything.:mad: From soaking it in oil, to using a brass rod covered in electrical tap with a rubber hammer to filling the barrel with oil and trying to plunge it out, nothing has worked. To the gunsmith I go. This is by far the most frustrating thing I've ever encountered with any of my guns and I hope my 858 isn't ruined.. Wish me luck.
 
pizdets17 said:
tried that too..now soaking in acetone as a last resort lol
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It sounds like the lacquer on the steel case has softened and glued itself into the chamber. I would have used 3 things.
-Butane or propane torch
-Can of circuit cooling spray (very cold)
-Removal tool whether it's a rod/hammer or vise-grips etc

Heat the thick chamber part of the barrel first then once it's hot the case for a bit to be sure the lacquer is softened up. Slide the rod into the case. Spray the cooling spray using the straw that came with the can to hit only the case. The barrel is already expanded a tiny bit from the heat applied and the case will contract from freezing. Hopefully this will create enough clearance to allow you to hit the rod with a hammer and dislodge the stuck case.

I've used this method many times working on heavy equipment. Sometimes because of extremely close tolerances where hydraulics are concerned, this is the only way to separate a piston from a barrel for example.
 
so im on my way to the gunsmith, and my wife the nail technician says "you should pour acetone down the barrel and soak it for a couple hours, that stuff will get anything out". To which of course I said "honey I know what im doing I've used every tool and liquid I have". After two hours of soaking in acetone, one hit of the hammer and out comes the round. Absolutely in tact. No damage to the bbl even with all the abuse. So what do I know lol. Thanks to all who chimed in, you guys are a great asset to this forum.
 
tiriaq said:
Here is a method that should work, and will not do any harm if it doesn't.
You will need a short piece of rod that will just barely slip into the muzzle. Brass would be fine. A short piece of dowel would actually be OK if used only for this method. It must be a tight slip fit.
Fill the bore with oil, almost to the muzzle. Start your plunger into the bore. Give it a good, sharp rap with a hammer. The hydraulic pressure should pop out the case. There will be a mess. Obviously, you will have to plug the gas port.

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Incidentally, the hydraulic method is a really good way of removing stuck live rounds. First hit will drive the bullet back into the case, and flood the powder. Top up the bore, and the second hit will expell the mess.
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tiriaq

THANK YOU.

I never had a live round stuck in the bore but this is a very useful tip to know.
 
I just can't believe that there is absolutely no damage to the bbl or anything else with all the hammering/prying etc. I was expecting the thing to be wrecked but its one tough cookie.
 
Lacquer build up.
Steal some more of her nail polish remover soak a bore brush. (I usally use the M14 one.)
Then Scrub! Repeat, Repeat & Repeat.
Then get your hands on some of this stuff;
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& this stuff too;
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Then last but not least buy some laquer thinner and a bore mop & after each time firing I mop the chamber then clean as per normal. If you do this it will never happen again.
 
HOly f**k guys..it's a CZ. Brass? Really? :D

Get anything long enough that doesn't bend when you out pressure on it and is able to run the full length of the bore to the back of the stuck case when you put it in. Spray in some WD-40, let it sit for 5 minutes and bash it out.

I don't care what it is. The last time this happened to me my old cleaning rod kit was too short, I made up the difference with ball bearings.

Don't worry so much about damaging your bore. Needing a brass rod is like saying you need to use a silk rag and wax polish to clean the shovel you use to shovel s**t. :D
 
i only bought brass because it was the only thing they had in a 1/4"

Blackthorne said:
HOly f**k guys..it's a CZ. Brass? Really? :D

Get anything long enough that doesn't bend when you out pressure on it and is able to run the full length of the bore to the back of the stuck case when you put it in. Spray in some WD-40, let it sit for 5 minutes and bash it out.

I don't care what it is. The last time this happened to me my old cleaning rod kit was too short, I made up the difference with ball bearings.

Don't worry so much about damaging your bore. Needing a brass rod is like saying you need to use a silk rag and wax polish to clean the shovel you use to shovel s**t. :D
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