Shooting CZ 85 combat in IPSC

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New to IPSC, just wondering if I can start with the hammer in half #### with safety on. First shot would still be DA same as if the hammer is all the way down but would require less trigger pull. Thanks
 
If you are using the CZ-85 for Production division, then no. The hammer has to be in the fully de-cocked position and touching the butt-end of the firing pin, with of course, a minimum trigger pull of 5lbs (2.27kg) for the first shot. This as per the IPSC handgun rulebook Appendix D4-6. Hope this helps.
 
If the gun has a decocking leaver the the hammer can be left as is when decocked. Otherwise as stated it must be fully lowered to the decocked position.
 
Nope.

The CZ 85 Combat is specifically on the approved production list.

As long as you lower the hammer down fully, you're good to go. It just needs to come to rest as lowered as the manufacturer intended.

Sosa is right in that a gun with a decocking lever is to be decocked using said lever on LAMR, even if the hammer comes to rest at half-####.
 
I was wondering about this as well. I have a CZ SP-01 tactical with a decocker. When I use the decocking lever the hammer comes to rest about half way. This is how I would start a round?

If I were to have a CZ with a safety, I understand that I still must start with the hammer all the way down AND the safety on? Is this correct? I read the WHOLE rule book and this info is not as clear as maybe it should be.
 
Here is the rule: 8.1.2.5 If a handgun has a decocking lever, that alone must be used to decock the handgun, without touching the trigger. If a handgun does not have a decocking lever, the hammer must be safely and manually lowered all the way forward (i.e. not just to a “half-#### notch” or to another similar intermediary position).
 
If I were to have a CZ with a safety, I understand that I still must start with the hammer all the way down AND the safety on? Is this correct?

No.

Hammer must be fully down. The safety on my cz75 will not engage unless the hammer is half or fully cocked therefore it is not possible to put the safety on if the gun is decocked. The safety is that the hammer is fully down and the long "hard" trigger pull. Even if you could engage the safety with the hammer down you are not required to do so.
 
the 85 is fine at half #### as that is where the decocker lowers it to. No safeties needed. Same goes for any other gun starting in the same condition (hammer down), no safeties needed. Just like you don't need to put your safeties on when moving (another common misconception)
 
the 85 is fine at half #### as that is where the decocker lowers it to. No safeties needed. Same goes for any other gun starting in the same condition (hammer down), no safeties needed. Just like you don't need to put your safeties on when moving (another common misconception)

The 85 doesn't have a decocker Slavex it is has the same sear arrangement as your Shadow. You don't start it in the half notch position in IPSC Production do you.

Take Care

Bob
 
Am I thinking the 85 Combat then?? We have a guy with an 85 that has a decocker, but maybe I'm totally lost now????
 
Am I thinking the 85 Combat then?? We have a guy with an 85 that has a decocker, but maybe I'm totally lost now????

CZ makes a decocker model. The 85 Combat has a safety as does the 85B. The 75BD is the decocker model in the full size steel gun. The Phantum is a full size polymer decocker model.

Bob
 
Am I thinking the 85 Combat then?? We have a guy with an 85 that has a decocker, but maybe I'm totally lost now????

I have an 85 Combat, thinking of getting a second. Never had a problem with it. Even my 9 year old granddaughter has shot it.
 
Holy crap, I'm blaming my pain killers. My buddy shoots am SP01 Tactical. With decocker obviously.
I have no idea where I got the 85 from. Sorry for the confusion, I'll go back to my corner.
 
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