Believe me, the people on the other side of this debate are just as irritated when they see the traditions of hunting & conservation being passed on to the next generation are often nothing more than "do whatever you can get away with".
Shooting ducks on the water? :)
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Believe me, the people on the other side of this debate are just as irritated when they see the traditions of hunting & conservation being passed on to the next generation are often nothing more than "do whatever you can get away with".
Wing shooting with Flu Flu's is without a doubt more sporting and using a shotgun but also, in my experience not very productive.
I've only taken 1 mallard with a flu flu and trying to find arrows afterwards detracts from the experience.
I think one needs to think of the word "sporting" as good, better, and best....that's why I said wing shooting is "more" sporting than shooting sitting ducks.
1963beretta
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This was well stated. I've hunted ducks in many of the same ways as this, so I couldn't agree more. If I wanted to be known as just a sportsman, I would stick to just shooting clays. I agree with the point of being a hunter and being proud of it.
But I will add that I would draw the line at shooting ducks at night while they sleep on the roost. That wouldn't sit well with me at all
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Believe me, the people on the other side of this debate are just as irritated when they see the traditions of hunting & conservation being passed on to the next generation are often nothing more than "do whatever you can get away with".
Okay CV32, fair enough. And respectfully put.
LOL, yeppers....you'd win!
Unfortunately I have only ever caught one.... and it had a flu flu arrow in it...
1963beretta
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Well... I for one prefer to sneak up behind them and grab them and finish them off with my teeth.... Do I get a "sporting medal"?
No, but Phil Robertson would be proud. Maybe instead of a medal, he'll throw you a little of his money instead. Lord knows he can afford to
Okay CV32, fair enough. And respectfully put.
I realize there's a lot of grey area, a lot of areas open to interpretation and subjective opinion, and that no one likes being called "unethical" or "unsportsmanlike".
In the end, I think if you feel completely comfortable with having your conduct and practices observed and learned by a young person who is an aspiring hunter and conservationist (the two go hand in hand), then you're probably within your personal zone of ethics/sportsmanship.
well said.
cant agree more with what youi said Superbrad.
there is always people that thought they have higher moral and ethic and they are better ... we are our worst enemy ....
1963beretta
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Well said. I once knew an older duck hunter who was a terrible wing-shot. He only shot at ducks in water and would pass up every shot in the air, regardless of how close the bird was. Although I would personally find this method boring, I appreciated the fact that he knew his restrictions and only hunted within them. I had way more respect for him then many of the idiots who pulled the trigger on everything regardless of how far the birds were. All those guys do is wound birds and retreive nothing. In this case, i would say that the older hunter is the more ethical hunter
this is the award winner of the year: comparing killing of humans to hunting .... exactly what the antis are doing ....
1963beretta
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Way over the top?? Yes, I definitely have to agree with you. But my feelings on the matter remain unchanged.
Just out of curiousity...where is it legal to shoot ducks in the middle of the night? Learn something new everyday!
Sometimes you're in a blind and a duck or two or three comes swimming by right in front of you.
You can shoot one on the water, the others then fly up and you wing shoot at them.
Or you can stand up, reveal yourself and make 'em fly then shoot.
You can do whatever you want.
You can shoot one on the water, the others then fly up and you wing shoot at them.
Or you can stand up, reveal yourself and make 'em fly then shoot.
You can do whatever you want.
There's legal and there's ethical. Legal is what your government is prepared to let you do. Ethical is what your conscience is prepared to live with. They aren't always the same thing.
I can legally hunt moose in Ontario with a .25ACP rifle but it would hardly be ethical.
It would be certainly ethical to shoot a moose 31 minutes after sunset but it wouldn't be legal.
Fair chase is a subjective term that each hunter gets to define for himself. For me shooting ducks on the water doesn't qualify.
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I guess I'm just tired of hunters picking fights with each other, mostly.
And for me, "fair chase" and "sporting", just don't exist, period. I have a hard time even relating to the idea, honestly, when it comes to a human being with a firearm going after a bird or a bunny. But each to his own...
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What I have generally found over the years is that some hunters cannot seem to accept that another hunter or hunters may have had success in acquiring game so they cast the "I would never do it that way" argument as a way of compensating or justifying their lack of success. It seems like if they cast doubt upon the successful their lack of success is somehow elevated by a better standard of ethic. I have always shook my head at these folks because they are acting on nothing more than greed and jealousy. I have hunted with many types of people over the years whose ideas on ethics and fair chase were far ranging. I feel the experiences I have had have brought me to my current beliefs I carry today. Basically I feel a harvested animal is a harvested animal regardless of method or choice of weapon and I really couldn't care about anyones particular method of hunting. I hunt the way I enjoy hunting and I don't step on others toes for their choices. I also feel alot of the hunting laws are absolutely useless and question their validity? Sometimes I am reading the regs to familiarize myself and I will come across something and think who decided this should be law? Sounds ridiculous to me! But hey I could go on for days here. OP go out and shoot yourself a bunch of ducks in whatever method you choose and enjoy the rewards of your hunt. That is the bottom line and what it is truly all about anways.
