Totally agree and then there’s the rookie CO that has a different interpretation of the rules and tries to ruin one’s day.
Shooting grouse while big-game hunting - experience of noise on big game?
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Totally agree and then there’s the rookie CO that has a different interpretation of the rules and tries to ruin one’s day.
Hoytcanon - correct. I assumed we all knew that we were talkng about hunting, since the OP is about hunting, and this is the hunting forum. You're right of course though, there's no rule against target shooting in a gravel pit off-season.
nowarningshot
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One time at band camp.
Actually in the north peace, moose hunting. Spoke with father and son team hunting same area, both were members of "The Quad Squad". Son had not seen a big game animal, passed on lots of chickens. So he goes out, on the quad, with only a 410.....guess what happened.
I've just gotten to the point we're it's nice to see small game. Remember being a young teen, getting to go out with my father and his x coworker from the coast. Shooting ruffies with my rem 572 pump, which gave them an excuse to pour a rum n Coke, hold the Coke. I remember that kid, leave em for someone else's 13yr old.
Actually in the north peace, moose hunting. Spoke with father and son team hunting same area, both were members of "The Quad Squad". Son had not seen a big game animal, passed on lots of chickens. So he goes out, on the quad, with only a 410.....guess what happened.
I've just gotten to the point we're it's nice to see small game. Remember being a young teen, getting to go out with my father and his x coworker from the coast. Shooting ruffies with my rem 572 pump, which gave them an excuse to pour a rum n Coke, hold the Coke. I remember that kid, leave em for someone else's 13yr old.
sam menard
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Getting back to the OP’s question, I suggest using a bit of common sense while bird hunting during the moose hunt. Although moose can be shot most anywhere, there are areas of higher/lower probability where moose are apt to be seen. Limit your bird hunting to areas where you least expect to see moose, while not disturbing the higher probability areas.
I hunted moose one year with a guy who thought that he only had to be quiet when he was at his watch. He was also of the belief that moose only moved in the first hour of the morning or last hour of the day. So the minute he left his watch, he would carry on as if moose were extinct and would crash, bang, yell, etc. I tried to convince him that he should be quiet as a moose could show up at any time and to be careful to not burn his spot. He didn’t change his ways, never saw a thing, and was never invited back.
I hunted moose one year with a guy who thought that he only had to be quiet when he was at his watch. He was also of the belief that moose only moved in the first hour of the morning or last hour of the day. So the minute he left his watch, he would carry on as if moose were extinct and would crash, bang, yell, etc. I tried to convince him that he should be quiet as a moose could show up at any time and to be careful to not burn his spot. He didn’t change his ways, never saw a thing, and was never invited back.
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I've shot them in the middle of the afternoon from 50 yards away while we were loading up the boat to head home - music on the stereo, talking normally, no issues.
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sam menard
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For sure, remarkable things like that can and do happen, but I suggest that events like that are outliers. I wouldn’t want to suggest playing the stereo and loading up a boat as a moose hunting tactic.
I suggest the bottom line is this: big game is not necessarily going to be concerned about the sound of a shot going off, what they're genetically programmed to be wary of is the sound of a predator moving up on them, which is to say footsteps, branches breaking, brush rustling, that sort of thing, and most of all, scent. Scent is something we humans are almost blind to but it's all-important in the animal world. You have to be pretty darned good or just plain lucky to sneak up close to a wary animal like a deer and sounds of movement and the scent flowing off you like a silent fire alarm are what you most need to be aware of.
Ardent
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I’m with Hoyt, until my mid 20s I used a slingshot for grouse with steel ball bearings. That started as a young teen, it was a lot of fun and I’ll encourage my boys to take up the same.
I’m in the minority it seems who don’t shoot the non-target species with a rifle or shotgun while hunting big game. We had a wolf come through a stand with a member’s son, we passed it as likely would spook the main quarry. This is in a no pressure, essentially non hunted area. The wolf returned last light and he tagged it.
I don’t shoot small game when after big game, but sure do once the big game’s tagged. I haven’t carried an air gun with me yet and probably should get a .22 pellet pistol.
I’m in the minority it seems who don’t shoot the non-target species with a rifle or shotgun while hunting big game. We had a wolf come through a stand with a member’s son, we passed it as likely would spook the main quarry. This is in a no pressure, essentially non hunted area. The wolf returned last light and he tagged it.
I don’t shoot small game when after big game, but sure do once the big game’s tagged. I haven’t carried an air gun with me yet and probably should get a .22 pellet pistol.
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I used to carry a slingshot at work in the fall and roasted a few grouse on lunch fires.
I have also taken grouse with rolls of flagging tape, sticks and thrown shovels (excessive)
C02 airguns start to perform poorly around 5 degrees, so maybe best for early season hunting
We used to bring either the pump air gun or little badger backpack hunting for Ptarmigan etc.
I have considered a combo gun but it would be more of a "going for a walk" /canoe trip proposition.
While hunting big game the "chicken gun" is more for the drive in/out
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Scent is a non issue .... if you know how to play the wind ...
Lets say you haven't showered or changed clothes in two weeks ... you can be 3 meters or even 50 cm downwind of a deer .... and it will not know that you are a human !!!
Scent only travels in one direction ... with the wind ...
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bearkilr
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How about under authority of a trapping license? Here in MB I can carry a centerfire rifle for coyote or wolf during open big game seasons without having a tag for said season.
This is my son, with his late grandfather about 25 years ago, popping grouse with pellet guns, he shot his first grouse with a Benjamin pistol when he was three or four, and hundreds more over the years. Air rifles are very effective small game getters.
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Yes, the Wildlife Act definition of Firearm is different than the Federal definition.
"FIREARM - includes a device that propels a projectile by means of an explosion, compressed gas or spring and includes a rifle, shotgun, handgun, pellet gun, "BB" gun or spring gun but does not include a bow."
And
"It is unlawful to use a firearm this is designed, altered or intended to be aimed and fired by the action of one hand OR that has a barrel less than 305mm in length."
It must be reasonable since the Govt always makes evidence based policy.
I'm not suggesting to shoot a moose you should have the stereo going and such, what I am suggesting is that random noises do not bother animals as much as people think .
I shoot many of my animals within 300 yards of a busy highway and a saw mill.
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Yeah, it’s typical bc stupidity.
Scoutertracker
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I have a 32 ACP/308 Win adapter. Works pretty slick and decently accurate.
This is similar to the Hammond Game Getter that I mentioned previously. The difference is that the Game Getter uses a lead ball and and a .22 rimfire power hammer charge.
Technically True, but unless your lucky enough to hunt where the wind never swirls, its a bit more complicated than that.Scent is a non issue .... if you know how to play the wind ...
Lets say you haven't showered or changed clothes in two weeks ... you can be 3 meters or even 50 cm downwind of a deer .... and it will not know that you are a human !!!
Scent only travels in one direction ... with the wind ...
I used to carry a .22 pellet pistol, and have switched to a sling shot for grouse when big game hunting. I find it more effective, as in you get a kill shot, or a clean miss. Pellet gun wasn't as effective, unless you only took head shots. Sling shot is also smaller, lighter and just easier to pack.
