Short Magnums. What are they bringing to the field?

Grizzly Adams said:
And look 3x as hard to find it. :) I own a .270 WSM and hand load,, otherwise she'd be down the road and the performance is no great gain over the regular .270 Win. Doesn't like the heavier bullets either. Even the Brass is a premium price product.

Grizz
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Not uncommon to find it in the brass bin at our range. So maybe not so hard to find. :)
 
Grizzly Adams said:
And look 3x as hard to find it. :) I own a .270 WSM and hand load,, otherwise she'd be down the road and the performance is no great gain over the regular .270 Win. Doesn't like the heavier bullets either. Even the Brass is a premium price product.

Grizz
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I can't noticing that my little .270 WSM trots the 130s out at 3400 fps, and well, my .270 Wins don't. Same weight of bullet, same level of enthusiasm on the powder scale, same chronograph and no particular reason to see one do better than the other, but one does 2950 and the other does 3050 fps. Take the average and its 400 fps in favor of the short fat funny looking one.
 
cody c said:
A cool caliber, but more obsolete then the WSM's
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However, it WAS an original short magnum. It may well have been ahead of its time, but does the fact that it is "more obsolete" than the recently introduced versions mean anything about the likely life span of most of the new ones?
 
My only interest in a WSM was to build the lightest possible rifle for sheep and goat hunting and have significantly more ballistic snot than a 308 or 7-08. So I started out with a 300 WSM in a Rem 700 Ti and ended up with more or less exactly what I set out to achieve with another 2K of mods to the rifle. This rifle ended up a few ounces lighter than a 300 WM in the same configuration and gives ballistics that are better than an 06 although not a 300 WM but good enough for the application. A very niche rifle for a very niche application.

 
SuperCub said:
Seems to be a steady stream of WSMs on the EE.
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I'd guess that's because everybody and their mother just NEEDED one while the hype was up over the last decade or so and now, well, the hype is pretty well gone. FWIW, i have no dog in this fight but the only cool/generally innovative and useful WSM seemed to be the .270 WSM. Since I don't plan on hunting mountain goat anytime soon (We have so few in Ontario :( ) I can't see myself picking one up, or any of the others for that matter. To each their own though.
 
c-fbmi said:
My only interest in a WSM was to build the lightest possible rifle for sheep and goat hunting and have significantly more ballistic snot than a 308 or 7-08. So I started out with a 300 WSM in a Rem 700 Ti and ended up with more or less exactly what I set out to achieve with another 2K of mods to the rifle. This rifle ended up a few ounces lighter than a 300 WM in the same configuration and gives ballistics that are better than an 06 although not a 300 WM but good enough for the application. A very niche rifle for a very niche application.

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Beautiful picture Douglas , Thanks for sharing.
Your rifle is a deadringer for my Ti, really like mine !
 
nowarningshot said:
^^^Have to agree. The 300 WSM is a 30-06 and a half, or a 300 WM minus a half. From a marketing angle the 300 WSM will survive, but the 270 WSM does something that the others dont...finds a niche.....would make a really nice chambering for a lightweight short action mountain rifle.
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in the middle there is the 300hh which is not that bad ....
 
wow,...all the naysayers have me wanting to run out a pick up a WSM...I love the underdog.

I've had a few go thru my hands, nothing wrong with them. The same primer, powder and bullet in a different wrapper.
 
Wow thread revival at it's best.....

I started this thread 4 years ago because after all the picking and ribbing that we usually do to each other in fun of course:p, I wanted to know exactly what they were doing in a practical sense from experienced people who did without them for a long time and then one day they were there. So an apples to apples comparison from experienced with both. I was only experienced with the old.

So in the four years or so, is there enough data or changes in thinking to say that.........

........they've reached their peak in popularity but will maintain a lesser but solid following, side by side with older similar cartridges? Or in 40 years from now,... will someone that totes a magnum say,".300Win Mag, hmm.. never heard of that before or a .270WSM toting sheep hunter remark...... "I didn't know there was a .270 cartridge before my 270WSM? Remember everyone is not all Gun Nutz and some do a lot more hunting than just reading about hunting or whatever to know rifle history so use your imaginations.;)

The two that will be here in years to come I'm sure, the .270 and the 300, will they slowly but steadily out pace the 270Win and the 300WM and be the new standards in their respective bullet diameters, or will it be like the .308Win will never replace the '06 but equally as popular. Years of use should temper initial hype and fashion everytime, but there were lost, many many good innovations in their day, the 280Rem, the .284Win etc, that should have hung on.
I guess what I'm saying is, do the WSM's do enough to survive on merit alone? Will they be lost to the standards of today like the .284 and 280 were eventually in their time, or will marketing and gun writing continue to sell them by slighting proven cartridges that already were doing for many years what they can do?
 
There was a lot of naysayers when the 284 win came out, and guess what, its still here. The wsm's and the 284win may not be popular but F-class like em, cause they're accurate. The also work well in light weight rifles. I believe they have found their niche.
 
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