Shot a beet
- Thread starter H4831
- Start date
- Location
- Saskatchewan
Personally I would not choose anything less than a .243 for either wolves or beets, just too much chance of a horrible crippling flesh wound and a slow, painful death. Both deserve better.
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
In November 1988 I shot a young wolf in Northern Ontario with my brand new to me, .222 Remington M788. I didn't even have a scope mounted then, so I used the iron sights. It was chasing a rabbit onto the edge of a frozen lake and realized a little too late, I was drawing a bead on him. The first shot took him in the front RH shoulder and it took a follower to finish him off.
My overall impression, was this cartridge was marginal for the task.
My overall impression, was this cartridge was marginal for the task.
Johnn Peterson
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Chemainus B.C.
I guess if you are up in a blind, you'd be OK with the Hornet, as beets can't climb very well. If you do get chased by one, don't try the old "outrun a bear by running downhill, 'cause bears can't run downhill" trick. Beets run downhill extremely well. I've had the best luck running a pack of beet hounds, mainly German Wirehaired Borschthunds.
Last wolf I shot was with a 22-250 loaded with 60gr Sierra Varmint HP bullets @ 3550fps shot was 220 yards bullet hit dead center on the right side of the chest and exited out the left side.
Wolf was DRT before I even came out of recoil so it completely beets me as too why you guys think a centerfire 22 like a 22-250 isn't enough to beet a wolf...
Wolf was DRT before I even came out of recoil so it completely beets me as too why you guys think a centerfire 22 like a 22-250 isn't enough to beet a wolf...
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Last wolf I shot was with a 22-250 loaded with 60gr Sierra Varmint HP bullets @ 3550fps shot was 220 yards bullet hit dead center on the right side of the chest and exited out the left side.
Wolf was DRT before I even came out of recoil so it completely beets me as too why you guys think a centerfire 22 like a 22-250 isn't enough to beet a wolf...
If you read most of the posts, I think you'll find more questions on the Hornet for this task, more than any other choice.
I thought they were protected - check with your local horticultural society. Maybe it just depends on the area, but I've had them in my garden,and when I called, I was told that unless they actually attacked either people or livestock, I had to leave them be. Also, if I did shoot one in self defense, I had to peel it and send the rind in for analysis.
Biggunners
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- MOSTLY LOSTED
It 's going to hurt a lot the Beet
and Beet cruelity groups are discussing the matter now
and Beet cruelity groups are discussing the matter now
Mike Oxbig
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Scarborough Ontario
Here's the result of my .17HMR V-max Polymer tip 17 grainer on some gel a few weeks back. Completely fragmented. (unrecoverable) Max penetration was 8-10" mostly fragments. As you can see it looks like it exploded at 2 inches deep. Awesome gopher grenade.
The .17 20 grain XTP hollow pointers however stayed intact and exited the gel. Gel cavity (not pictured i'll try to find it) but here's the recovered 20 grainers. Fully expanded with just over 14" of penetration. I'd have no problem shooting a yote with this bullet.
All the .22lr ammo varieties we fired at gel never expanded at all even after attempts to modify the tips. They looked like they could have been easily fired again. Even ones we shot at phone books still looked good.
We were quite amazed at how differently similar ammo reacted.
If the gel wasn't so expensive i'd try out some bigger calibers, however we'd need massive gel blocks to catch them.
The .17 20 grain XTP hollow pointers however stayed intact and exited the gel. Gel cavity (not pictured i'll try to find it) but here's the recovered 20 grainers. Fully expanded with just over 14" of penetration. I'd have no problem shooting a yote with this bullet.
All the .22lr ammo varieties we fired at gel never expanded at all even after attempts to modify the tips. They looked like they could have been easily fired again. Even ones we shot at phone books still looked good.
We were quite amazed at how differently similar ammo reacted.
If the gel wasn't so expensive i'd try out some bigger calibers, however we'd need massive gel blocks to catch them.
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Great post...
I have both of the bullets you used I will definitely be using your info I was wanting to try calling in bobcats/lynx this winter and didn't want to damage their pelts to much but I wanted the bullet to stay together.
I will now be loading the 20gr XTP's when I take the 17HMR along especially if a coyote shows up instead.
I have both of the bullets you used I will definitely be using your info I was wanting to try calling in bobcats/lynx this winter and didn't want to damage their pelts to much but I wanted the bullet to stay together.
I will now be loading the 20gr XTP's when I take the 17HMR along especially if a coyote shows up instead.
