Shot out .22LR

rustynut1 said:
I finally talked to the selling vendor and was informed that I had 1 month to complain about the gun and this time is long past so this is my issue, my cost. I guess I'm thinking these folks sell basically wore out guns that were bought as surplus and we buy them for good money. I will be awful cautious with dealing with this vendor going forward. There are two issues with this gun: The bolt face looks like a hammer was taken to it, ugly but works OK, and the bbl is bulged at the very back maybe 1/16 of an inch. The brass is bulged on one side and not the other, really hard to extract the brass, need to use a little screwdriver or something like that. I'm likely going to send the gun to a gunsmith and hope for the best, I like the gun, I like open sights. Thanks all for your thoughts.
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I think you have guessed wrong.

Tradeex is one of the most reliable, conscientious, and considerate dealers in Canada. I have dealt with them a lot, including one deal where two rifles I bought did not feed properly, and nave never been disappointed.

They go the extra mile for anyone, but unless I have missed something, two years before you bring a complaint is a long time, Friend.

If you have the barrel set back a couple of inches and rechambered, your problem will be solved. Both function and accuracy will be restored, and at the least expense.

Best,
Ted
 
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Well - An inspection by a competent gunsmith may bear fruit.
1) You say the barrel is bulged - is the bore bulged? You can tell by pulling a patch.
2) What kind of shape is the bore in?
3) Have you looked at the brass for scratch marks? The chamber edges often get peened over slightly causing a lip which affects extraction.

All-in-all you may have a relatively simple fix, if the answers are no, good, and yes.
 
rustynut1 said:
I finally talked to the selling vendor and was informed that I had 1 month to complain about the gun and this time is long past so this is my issue, my cost. I guess I'm thinking these folks sell basically wore out guns that were bought as surplus and we buy them for good money. I will be awful cautious with dealing with this vendor going forward. There are two issues with this gun: The bolt face looks like a hammer was taken to it, ugly but works OK, and the bbl is bulged at the very back maybe 1/16 of an inch. The brass is bulged on one side and not the other, really hard to extract the brass, need to use a little screwdriver or something like that. I'm likely going to send the gun to a gunsmith and hope for the best, I like the gun, I like open sights. Thanks all for your thoughts.
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You don't have much reason to be calling on them to make good on ANYTHING, two years after the purchase. Let alone flinging about any aspersions as to their motives or business plan.

Bummer that they didn't catch any issues when they went through their incoming shipment, which I know they do, as they have to accurately assess the condition of each piece in order to price them, but you did buy a used gun, knowing full well that it was used, and you didn't thoroughly check it out when you got it? That seems unreasonable to me.

You have a problem with the gun you bought and did not adequately inspect. Solve that, without trying to make this a big stink about how you think you are getting done over by someone, over what was essentially, your own doing.

Cheers
Trev
 
I have looked into this a bit. I got the gun 3/15. I was busy at this time, work, buying a Freedom Arms .454 and a custom made 1911 selling a couple guns. This gun fell through the cracks. I was away from home for about 2-2 1/2 months as well for work. I have heard many stories how great this companies service is. I can tell you that if you don't return the gun within one month than this great service is internet legend. I'm told that these guns were high quality guns in their day, the gun is worth spending a little money on it so I will. It would be nice if the vendor offered a little assistance in this but that isn't going to happen. The shape of the bolt is obvious to the eye and they should not have sold a gun in this condition, the shape the bbl. is in isn't obvious to the eye so that could be forgiven. Bottom line is this company sells guns that have been used a lot, were bought as salvage and they resell them to people like us for good money. I made a mistake and others may be able to learn from my mistake.
 
tiriaq said:
I looked at a S&L on TradeEx's site. Looks as if the barrel and receiver are integral. Setting back and rechambering may not be an option.
Doubt that the chamber is "shot out". Really hard extraction could indicate a damaged chamber, though. A careful inspection of the barrel is in order.
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No, they are not integral. The barrels are pinned in the receiver.
 
The gun is repaired by Tradex recommended Gunsmith, at my cost. I haven't got the gun back yet but cost wasn't high. The ejector was a home made effort so that had to go, there were issues with the trigger not set right, the bolt face was in rough shape so that was cleaned up. Buddy says he has fired a box of rounds through the gun and it is good now. I'm awaiting the gun coming back and hopeful it is good to go. I'm pretty sure he didn't cut off the barrell to do the repair.
 
Re: the $250 export fee.
Is it worth getting a group buy together to get a bunch of liners?
I've e-mailed Bits of Pieces several times to ask if they have any in stock. A couple of answers were negative and now they don't bother replying.
Ron Smith's liners are $250 each. Not cheap, but quality never is.
 
17 liners are available. A few years ago I installed one using a worn out 6mm heavy barrel. Turned the barrel down some, fitted to my 77-22 chambered for the 17 Mach 2. It shoots 1/4 inch groups at 50 yards.

The 17M2 reamer and the boring tool for liners is for sale. PM me.
 
Well an update for you. I had this gun sent to a gunsmith that is said to know everything about these guns. It took months but he finally worked on the gun and charged me something like $125 for the repair. I finally got to the range today. I could not #### or uncock the gun unless I depressed the trigger. The gun actually semi ejected all the brass, one time the spent brass actually flew out of the bbl. What I'm saying is the brass came 1/2 way out of the bbl every time & one brass flew out onto the ground.

At this stage there is improvement but no joy. I will have to look into this some more. Buddy the gunsmith will never touch the gun again. Funny thing I sent him a cheque for the $125, he held the gun for at least an additional month for my $125 cheque to clear the bank. Guess he figured I would bounce the cheque. I have been a banker (in the past) it takes like a day for a cheque to clear, not a month. I know he replaced the ejector and worked on the trigger as part of his work, cleaned up the bolt face, shimmed the bolt. He says he shot a box of bullets in the process of doing this repair. I will not name buddy the gunsmith cause I'm such an upstanding citizen!

Before I hit send on this post I tried the gun. At room temp I can #### and uncock this gun like a hot dam. Out at the range at about 0C it was tough as I have said above. I had oiled the gun with Hoppe #9 oil before the range trip.

As a further note. I shot at a target at about 50 yards open sights, peep sights. All the rounds were within the diameter of a quarter. This is a keeper gun. Only open sight, peep sight I have.
 
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