Should Dictatorships be allowed to be members of IPSC?

[maurice]

You keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel good, but you're only fooling yourself.

Mr. Alexakos once told us he didn't like the way the previous President ran IPSC, but at least he had the courage of his convictions to stand up and be counted, instead of cowering behind feeble excuses and self-awarded badges of honor. He made his case and he got elected.

It's time you quit bashing Vinny, bashing Alexakos and bashing just about everything else in IPSC. Stick to what you can handle, like running little gun clubs, as you seem to be successful at that level. They need Presidents too, but only Minor PF.

Rude,...rude, and rude. Attack John,....but must you really start talking like a child? Lead by example,...be a better person and try to be mature.

Slavex is right,..this thread has "FAIL" all over it.

 

[pokpok1964]

just jumping in to let everyone know I'm the Lightbringer, Morningstar. not Storm. two totally different things.

Mr. Slavex, you're definitely nothing like the so-called "storm(drizzle)bringer". Ha! You've always been fair and kind and respectful to others and I sincerely thank you for that. And so has been Mr. Quiqley.

Mr. Curtdad, I also thank you for your note.

 

[pokpok1964]

Rude,...rude, and rude. Attack John,....but must you really start talking like a child? Lead by example,...be a better person and try to be mature.

Attack John - you mean stormbringer? Amazing how he says "I am PROUD that I lack what it takes to be President of IPSC. I take it as a badge of integrity" which means the IPSC President lacks integrity, but you accuse me of being the attacker!!!!! Never mind. You good old boys stick together.

 

[maurice]

Attack John - you mean stormbringer? Amazing how he says "I am PROUD that I lack what it takes to be President of IPSC. I take it as a badge of integrity" which means the IPSC President lacks integrity, but you accuse me of being the attacker!!!!! Never mind. You good old boys stick together.

I rest my case.....

I was more shocked you would insult his "little " club,...I care not that you would attack John/Stormbringer. Grown ups fight there own battles. I doubt Vince needs or wants you sticking up for him.

 

[Travis Bickle]

I'm sure the primary concern of your basic person living under ACTUAL brutal dictatorships in horrible parts of the world is being able to compete in a practical shooting contest......

 

[PH Racing]

I'm sure the primary concern of your basic person living under ACTUAL brutal dictatorships in horrible parts of the world is being able to compete in a practical shooting contest......

Actually it probably is... But their take on what is a "practical shooting contest" might be vastly different from ours....

 

[skeetgunner]

IPSC seems to be abandoning its basic principles at an astounding rate.

Are they abandoning their principals, or are they harmonizing their rules, constitution and bylaws with the prevailing body of law in the jurisdiction that they are incorporated in? No institution can make rules that run contrary to the laws of the province/state/country they are incorporated in.

That is disconcerting.

Change can be scary.

 

[arancio]

Attack John - you mean stormbringer? Amazing how he says "I am PROUD that I lack what it takes to be President of IPSC. I take it as a badge of integrity" which means the IPSC President lacks integrity, but you accuse me of being the attacker!!!!! Never mind. You good old boys stick together.

pokpok;

The next time you see popa nick ask him to tell you, truthfully, how he came to be elected the President of IPSC. Who knows, you also might be proud that you lack what it takes to be [elected] President of IPSC.

 

[Canuck44]

IDPA is run by dictatorship.... the parent countries have no say in who gets elected to be area coordinator, seems likethe first guy that throws his hat inthe arena gets the prize.

IDPA is a wholly owned company run by a President and the owner of the company with a Board of Directors. It is this group who determines who is appointed Area Coordinators for the various regions shooting IDPA.

As to this thread I fail to see how this thread in anyway promotes IPSC or shooting sports in general. Both can be vehicles to break down barriors and promote understanding amongst peoples from various countries. Any attempt to prevent this from happening due to differences in our political views is counterproductive and achieves nothing.

Take Care

Bob

 

[Onagoth]

IDPA is run by dictatorship.... the parent countries have no say in who gets elected to be area coordinator, seems likethe first guy that throws his hat inthe arena gets the prize.

I don't think you understand the difference between a private enterprise and a dictatorship.

 

[gambit]

double post please remove

 

[gambit]

Attack John - you mean stormbringer? Never mind. You good old boys stick together.

Right , so why bother posting on this forum when you believe we are all "good old boys"

 

[Slavex]

I'm going to start handing out apples soon. But only if Lilith is ok with that.

 

[Crisco 1]

Well as the Libs seem to idealize the Dictator this maybe to our advantage.

 

[pokpok1964]

pokpok; The next time you see popa nick ask him to tell you, truthfully, how he came to be elected the President of IPSC.

I will, but probably thru Vinny, becoz I'm in regular contact with him but not with Mr. Alexakos. If you know something about his election, why don't you tell us what you know instead of hinting you know something?

I doubt Vince needs or wants you sticking up for him.

You're right, but if people who read CGN only ever hear endless complaints about IPSC leaders without any defence being offered, they can easily draw a one-sided conclusion. As my dad used to say "Even a broken clock is right twice a day", but some people here would argue that!

 

[euxx]

You're right, but if people who read CGN only ever hear endless complaints about IPSC leaders without any defence being offered, they can easily draw a one-sided conclusion. As my dad used to say "Even a broken clock is right twice a day", but some people here would argue that!

Are you admitting now that IPSC is a broken clock?

In my view, the real IPSC leaders are those who are making the competition roll. The competitors themselves, ROs and the match directors.

 

[pepsicola]

I don't think you understand IDPA... ok it is an organization owned by one man with a board of directors, it has a "membership" in the thousands and yet the members have no input into the day to day running of the organization and they have no "voting" power as to who gets elected as regional or national directors.... the board is appointed by the owner, the regional directors are appointed by the "buddy system".....

sort of like the days of olde, when a king picked his court jesters.... the"membership" has very little feedback into anything IDPA is, maybe some feedback into "some" of the rules but not much.... considering the board of directors is all "friends of bill" (and not AA related) I do consider IDPA a dictatorship.

A dictatorship is defined as an autocratic form of government in which the government is ruled by an individual, the dictator. It has three possible meanings:

1.A Roman dictator was the incumbent of a political office of the Roman Republic. Roman dictators were allocated absolute power during times of emergency. Their power was originally neither arbitrary nor unaccountable, being subject to law and requiring retrospective justification. There were no such dictatorships after the beginning of the 2nd century BC, and later dictators such as Sulla and the Roman Emperors exercised power much more personally and arbitrarily.
2.A government controlled by one person, or a small group of people. In this form of government the power rests entirely on the person or group of people, and can be obtained by force or by inheritance. The dictator(s) may also take away much of its peoples' freedom.
3.In contemporary usage, dictatorship refers to an autocratic form of absolute rule by leadership unrestricted by law, constitutions, or other social and political factors within the state.

 

[M1shooter]

Just a thought - in a dictatorship, who is going to be allowed to have access to firearms? Would these be shooters you would want to associate with?

Ya, only the gestapo there will have guns, so no.

 

[Slavex]

You know this has nothing go do with Action Shooting Games. When I'm in front of a PC its getting moved.

 

[pokpok1964]

Are you admitting now that IPSC is a broken clock?

I don't have the energy to explain the nuances of the English language to you. If you don't get it, you don't get it, but you can try by looking up the word idiom.

In my view, the real IPSC leaders are those who are making the competition roll. The competitors themselves, ROs and the match directors.

In that case you can learn all you need to learn from your local guys. You don't need the world body and you don't need the GV or other information from outside Canada. You should spend more time with the experts here who share you view that IPSC is broken, corrupt etc.

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