should my remington 11 87 jam every 2nd or third shot?

bunkie1520 said:
I bought a remingtom 11 87 and paid around $1000. all it does is jam up ,wont eject.......im done, I like the look and style of the shotgun but as far as quality goes and being reliable... NO WAY!... i will never touch a remington again

I Bought a Browning Auto 5 ( in 1989) and this shotgun has never failed me its worked perfectly every time.I also bought a browning BLR 22 its around 18 years old and it works like a charm, Now Im looking at buying a 20 gage BPS and a 12 gage BPS.......makes a nice set

Keep up the fine work Browning
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ID`have suggested the Mossberg 9 30
 
I can't speak for the quality or reliabiltiiy of recently manufactured 11-87s, but I can say that I have owned and still own a number of 1100s and 11-87s and I have nothing but good things to say about them. Speaking of the so called weak link which is the "O" ring, I have had the same ring on and 1100 special field that I bought 20 or more years ago, and have fired thousands of rounds out of. I've shot countless woodcock, snipe, rabbit, and the occasional duck of opportunity in bush ponds. In all those thousands of rounds I can't recall a single FTF, or FTE. The thing is, I know that in order to make it work proplerly every time, I''ve had to clean it after every outing and take it apart completely, and clean and oil it after every season. As well, I never use cheap ammuntion, just for the sake of saving a few measly bucks.

In closing I would wish that before people come on here and bash these firearms they would get to know a gun thoroughly, and thorougly investigae problems on their own. Once you have done this and the problem still exists then ask away. After all, it could be, as already stated, a simple thing like cheap shells, or someithing just as easy to fix. You got a brain, use it.
 
Quigly said:
The thing is, I know that in order to make it work proplerly every time, I''ve had to clean it after every outing .
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Every outing? I have a couple of older Beretta semi's that may get cleaned once a year and they keep on cycling without issue. Perhaps the problems with the Remington semi's are not completely unfounded. I had an 1100 in 20 gauge years ago that was a complete POS, even when dripping in oil and spotless, it was a single shot with 3" loads.
 
I have a couple of older Beretta semi's that may get cleaned once a year and they keep on cycling without issue.
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I had an 1100 in 20 gauge years ago that was a complete POS, even when dripping in oil and spotless, it was a single shot with 3" loads.
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The after outing cleaning doesn't consist of anything hardcore. Just running the barrel through, removing carbon, and a light oiling. I could most likely get away with not cleaning it every time, but I enjoy doing it, and in so doing I know for certain the gun won't let me down. When I was in the military we cleaned our C1s and later C7s thoroughly after firing. I realize there is more at stake in the military, than with civilian use; regardless, to not clean a firearm even occassionally is asking for problems. I question whether someone that cleans his guns so infrequently even knows how to clean a gun in the first place. I bet I could make that 20 gauge shoot.
 
Quigly said:
The after outing cleaning doesn't consist of anything hardcore. Just running the barrel through, removing carbon, and a light oiling. I could most likely get away with not cleaning it every time, but I enjoy doing it, and in so doing I know for certain the gun won't let me down. When I was in the military we cleaned our C1s and later C7s thoroughly after firing. I realize there is more at stake in the military, than with civilian use; regardless, to not clean a firearm even occassionally is asking for problems. I question whether someone that cleans his guns so infrequently even knows how to clean a gun in the first place. I bet I could make that 20 gauge shoot.
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I do clean my other shotguns and rifles frequently, just not the old Berettas and a couple old 22's, they go hunting when the weather's too ugly for the newer ones.
There's no need to question my abilities, I'm well aware of how to clean guns properly. However, to practice a "military speed" assembly/disassembly and cleaning, it appears I should buy another 1100/11-87 to practice on. :p
 
Touche'; however based on my experiences with the 1100s and 1187s, and your own admissions I still think the problems lie with the owner of the firearm. Buy another 1100, learn it, clean it, and even disassemble and reassemble it with military precision if that's what makes you happy.:) I betcha it won't let you down.
 
I have seen 1100's and 11/87's so filthy I wondered how they could function.

I'm leaning towards underpowered ammo or incorrect assembly.
 
I have an 11 87 supermag it works perfect with federal target but hates Winchester , so far I have only used it for trap & must have got through several cases of federal without a single issue so now I stick with them.
 
To the OP--You say you might look into the Mossberg 930. My wife has one and so does my dad. They are good guns for the money. However, by your first post it seems you are a Browning fan so I question why you would want to look at the 930. Is it because of price? Why I am saying this is if you buy a 930 fine, but don't expect Browning quality. And I would stay away from the 935 if you don't want jamming issues with the light loads otherwise you might find you have the same complaint as you had with the Remington Super Mag.
 
bearkilr said:
Every outing? I have a couple of older Beretta semi's that may get cleaned once a year and they keep on cycling without issue. Perhaps the problems with the Remington semi's are not completely unfounded. I had an 1100 in 20 gauge years ago that was a complete POS, even when dripping in oil and spotless, it was a single shot with 3" loads.
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There's your problem...
 
im still interested in the Browning pumps, just want to learn a little more about mossberg
pumps and others that are good solid guns. but looks like im going with a 20 and a 12 gage pump from Browning i like shooting for grouse and duck. i started out with the auto 5 and loved it but i have the fixed choke brl,and i understand buying a brl that can shoot steel can be $$
so i think im going to sell my rem 1187 and my auto 5 and use the $ to pay for the pumps
 
bunkie1520.
If you want an auotloader these are usually "you get what you pay for" kinda guns. A really good one will cost some money! But the mossberg 930 seems to have a great following and record of reliability for it's price tag!
If I had money I'd look at the beretta 391"s -extrema or any for the benelli's. These manufacturers are known for quality autoloaders!!! but you will pay $12-1800.00 for one. you should be able to pick up a 930 for appx $800-1000.00

You seem to be looking for a shotgun on different ends fo the spectrum. Typically grouse guns a well ballanced, light to carry, shorter barreled . For quick shots in tight cover that you have to carry all day!
Where the waterfowl shotguns are designed to handle heavy payloads of shot using 3-3.5" mag shotshells . Usually heavy, long barreled. to help absorb some recoil!!! for lots for shooting at longer range.
Not saying you can't use any old shotgun ....you can, but just look for something that's midway between the two.

Good luck in your quest for the right shotgun for you!!!!
 
gunsaholic said:
The 930 (in black) that I got for my dad 3 years ago was $419.00 at Cabela's in Winnipeg. They didn't go up that much since then did they?
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I was looking for a Beater Semi during the fall. Based on your good remarks about the 930 I went looking for one. The local place wanted 1100$ for a waterfowl Version with an extra deer barrel. I left without it.



Don't get hosed out their folks.
 
Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
I was looking for a Beater Semi during the fall. Based on your good remarks about the 930 I went looking for one. The local place wanted 1100$ for a waterfowl Version with an extra deer barrel. I left without it.



Don't get hosed out their folks.
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Geeze, what an increase! Glad I bought one for my wife and dad when I did, For my wife I got her the walnut version that was slightly used. I paid $350.00 for it.
 
After checking around a bit you can pick up Mossberg 930 for anywhere between
$499-$850
I was a bit high sorry about that ......check cabelas.ca or WSS
prices vary depends on camo-no-camo, 28"-24" etc...
 
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