Show Us Your Evil Black/Green/Brown Prohib Rifles
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I have plenty of the proprietary AUG "waffle" Magazines. Enough for 3 or 4 rifles, including no less than 6 of the 5/42-round Mags. As for the 1.5x Optic, I quite like the original "Donut of Death"! I find it to be very fast on target and intuitive with its 300m ranging function.
There IS the whole 12(4) issue, however there may be some admittedly limited, local work-arounds afoot in the early planning stages. All hope is not yet lost....
Painkillers
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Sweet Jesus!?
Switzers' Bi-monthly auctions are definitely your best bet these days, followed by Landsborough Auctions. Switzers is by far the best in terms customer service, careful packaging of items and prompt shipping following each auction's end. I have been pleasantly surprised in my dealings with Switzters over the past several years. You can bid at your leisure in the week leading up to each live auction, and need not be present a the live auction to win based on your maximum bid amount. Guns often sell for the highest bid placed prior to the live bidding, so it is worthwhile to take the time to set realistic maximum bids on the items that you want ahead of time.
The next Switzer's Auction is scheduled for 10-15 August, with the 15th being the live auction day. So you have 6 days to peruse the various auction items and place your maximum bids prior to the live auction for "Firearms and Antique Firearms" on 15 August. The other categories will end automatically throughout the 6 days leading up to the live auction.....
https://bid.switzersauction.com/August-10th-15th_as115392
IronNoggin
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Other purchases from Switzers' in the past year included this very nice 12(5) Beretta BM-59 and a minty 12(5) SIG AMT Battle Rifle:
And this early 12(3) Sudanese-contract Artillerie Inrichtingen AR10 Battle Rifle came to me through a private purchase:
All nice additions to my collection of major Cold War Battle Rifle designs...
And this early 12(3) Sudanese-contract Artillerie Inrichtingen AR10 Battle Rifle came to me through a private purchase:
All nice additions to my collection of major Cold War Battle Rifle designs...
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Speaking of Switzer’s Auctions, on their last lot they had a few rifles that would normally have been 12-5 class but were listed as “Canadian Prohibited Class”, and only transferable to a business or a museum. Anyone have an idea what that means?
KotKotofeich
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12.x is a grandfathered status is assigned to a gun that was in private hands at the time grandfathering was put in place and the owner received a grandfathered status on his license at that time and continued to hold it throughout.
For an individual to posess a prohibited gun. The individual must have a grandfathered license _and_ the gun must have grandfathered status.
Prohibited firearms which were not - e.g. they were not registered then and were only found in an estate and were not eligible for grandfathering, or the owners license was cancelled/not renewed in time and the registration certificates were cancelled, or they were held by a business or were imported after the grandfathering went into effect... - are not grandfathered. Such firearms are just 'prohibited' and can only be held by a business licensee or an agency. They cannot be transferred to individuals even if the individuals have grandfathering on their license.
All of my prohibited rifles are not grandfathered.
Here's my G.36, it is full auto but not 12.2
The sl.8 is not oic amnesty protected either. It is registered as prohibited (not mine, being exported)
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That's the thing - the prohibs that are "business or agency only" aren't worth much due to their limited resale. Their only value to a grandfathered owner would be as a parts kit with the Receiver destroyed by Switzer's gunsmith (whoever that happens to be) in lieu of a deactivation.
Alternatively, if one were to take a gamble, some of those prohibs sold for so little that they could have been deactivated for an additional $300 and then sold on the open market for a modest profit. Not my cup of tea deactivating live guns if at all avoidable, but I could see someone going that route as well....
Additionally, grandfathered prohibits, if sold to a business, can never go back to a licensed individual.
So if they are consigned for auction the transfer is individual to individual? I know nothing about it as i have no 12 anything
Yes. The auction is simply facilitating the sale. As soon as any 12.x gun goes into a business, it can never come out again to be sold to an individual.
KotKotofeich
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Correct, that's why I said "continued to hold it throughout." Apologies, I could have made a clearer explanation
Most auctions take 12.x (in fact most guns) "on consignment" and process the transfer from individual consignor to individual consignee. This sometimes causes other issues and inconveniences for them, but that’s how the CFO wants them to do it.
Keeping this thread alive, we have today's arrival of 2 x Steyr "Armee Universal Gewehr" (AUG) rifles from Switzer's April 2026 Auction. Dating back to 1977, these futuristic-looking rifles have been arguably the best as well as the first of the Bullpup miltary rifle designs, serving with excellent results in various Armed Forces throughout the world during the past 49 years. The condition of both rifles is 90% (+) with just a few small scratches in the Receiver paint of the Black version.
The polymer colour aside, both AUG rifles were identical when I received them. I added the Bayonet Lug and Australian Spare Magazine Pouch to the Green version and a Corvus Defensio Ejection Port Protector and Empty Casing Deflector to both rifles. This piece of hardware not only deflects empty casings away from Left-handed firers without need for a Left-hand Bolt, it also protects the rim of the Polymer Ejection Port. If the Gas system is set to adverse, the rifle will cycle too fast, resulting in empty casings f ailing to eject and instead cutting into the polymer at the front of the Ejection Port. The Corvus Defensio Ejection Port Protector and Empty Casing Deflector does an excellent job in both regards. Note that both rifles are fitted with the longer 5/42-round LMG Magazines rather than the 30-round version.
Provided that the fixed Length of Pull works for you, the AUG features excellent ergonomics across the board. Even the rather odd placement of the Magazine Catch behind the Magazine itself works quite well once you get used to the Thumb placement. The genuine AUG features a p;rogressive Trigger in lieu of a Selector Switch, where a short pull results in semi-automatic fire and a longer pull results in automatic fire. The AUG Trigger is often panned as a result of the rifle's polymer Trigger Components, however I personally find the AUG Trigger pull to be quite tolerable with a particularly crisp, clean break.
So anyhow, here they are, after a couple of months wait for the Registration Transfer...
The polymer colour aside, both AUG rifles were identical when I received them. I added the Bayonet Lug and Australian Spare Magazine Pouch to the Green version and a Corvus Defensio Ejection Port Protector and Empty Casing Deflector to both rifles. This piece of hardware not only deflects empty casings away from Left-handed firers without need for a Left-hand Bolt, it also protects the rim of the Polymer Ejection Port. If the Gas system is set to adverse, the rifle will cycle too fast, resulting in empty casings f ailing to eject and instead cutting into the polymer at the front of the Ejection Port. The Corvus Defensio Ejection Port Protector and Empty Casing Deflector does an excellent job in both regards. Note that both rifles are fitted with the longer 5/42-round LMG Magazines rather than the 30-round version.
Provided that the fixed Length of Pull works for you, the AUG features excellent ergonomics across the board. Even the rather odd placement of the Magazine Catch behind the Magazine itself works quite well once you get used to the Thumb placement. The genuine AUG features a p;rogressive Trigger in lieu of a Selector Switch, where a short pull results in semi-automatic fire and a longer pull results in automatic fire. The AUG Trigger is often panned as a result of the rifle's polymer Trigger Components, however I personally find the AUG Trigger pull to be quite tolerable with a particularly crisp, clean break.
So anyhow, here they are, after a couple of months wait for the Registration Transfer...
Sorry for the morbid question brother... but genuinely curious...
What arrangements have you made for your collection when you die?
Seems like you have an enormous collection, hopefully someone worthy will be able to keep it alive.
Very cool! I always wanted an AUG after getting the chance to shoot one in the late ’80s. I think it was the AUG and the L85 that sparked my interest in bullpups in general. Alas, since (I think) they’re all 12.4 I’ll likely never get the chance to own one.
