- Location
- Calgary, Alberta
I don't think it's that big of a deal, they both work better with a bit of oil than without. They've done plenty of torture testing of SIG Pros.
SIG Pro 2022
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I don't think it's that big of a deal, they both work better with a bit of oil than without. They've done plenty of torture testing of SIG Pros.
Squirrley11
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If I am not mistaken are the frames, including the trigger still made in germany? and just the slide is US made and assembled on this side of the ocean? If thats the case the tirggers should be the same. You can tell the diffence any european made pistol is a much finer metal than the corse north american steel.
I had a sig 226 fully germany made was awesome gun unfortunatly I have very small hands and was not the best fit for me am looking possibly at a 229 but for now got an M&P, fits the hand well shoots well and i get more practice with what I carry.
- Location
- BC, In a Van down by the river!
They are brand spanking new with the legal barrel length.
Hey Edmond, which State was that the property of?
I'm not sure if you were trying to make me feel stupid or not, but french is an official language of more than 20 countries around the world.
That would explain it.
- Location
- The Nation Of Alberta
my 2022 is brand new not a refurb.
Look again, Frontier has them on sale right now... $649.95
http://www.frontiertaxidermy.com/html/clearance_room.html
- Location
- Calgary, Alberta
I'm pretty sure the trigger mech parts are made in the US, at least the trigger itself, but no the frame is made in Germany on most of them (although there are US-made frames about, the serial numbers begin with "UU"). However there is more to it than just that, there is the fitting of the parts together. The German ones are better fitted, for certain.
I tried a P229 some years ago in the UK that had German proofmarks on it, it was definitely a better put together gun than the US ones (I've owned three), but the slide was a US slide, just like the US guns.
The P226ST I bought here had an abysmal trigger pull on it, but the frame was made in Germany.
I've noticed this in the past, at the club I was a member of in the UK, we had a guy who imported a Glock 21 from the US, and another guy who had a Glock 21 he'd bought in the UK, the one with the Austrian proofmarks on was fit together better, no question about it. There was more slop in the American one.
Maybe the springs have something to do with it too, the main springs I think are made in the country where the gun is assembled, that has an impact on the trigger pull. But when I took my P226ST apart the main problem was definitely lousy sear engagement. Yeah it worked but it was awful. I replaced the sear and hammer with ones out of a German gun and hey presto, trigger pull improved significantly. Put a Wolff mainspring in it and it's fantastic now. Never had a misfire.
Reminds me of the Tanfoglio pistols, everyone thought they had hideous trigger pulls. Yeah, if you bought one put together at the factory in Italy, but if you bought a Springfield Armory P9 that had been assembled in the US, it was the same gun but the trigger pull was far better.
It's down to the skill of the people assembling them.
Glock didn't start making guns/gun parts in the U.S. until a couple of years ago. That was long after handguns had been banned in the UK. That Glock 21 would have been made in Austria.
In general, Glock have pretty lousy fit (especially slide to frame fit), regardless of where they are made.
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I don't think there are any refurbed SP2022's around. They are all brand new and they are all between $650 and about $850. The only "Certified Pre-Owned" guns (from SIG, coming in an orange rather than blue or black plastic case) I have heard of in Canada are the 220's and 226's.
What they show for CPO on the SIG website is here:
http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=55&productid=201
For those who are not that familar with the models, they are (left to right): 220, 226, 228, 229, 239, and a 229 in an orange case. (Note that those 229's have no rail... which is different from all of the 229's that have been imported into Canada in the last 18 months... except for the SAS which never have rails).
There were some "used" older SIG Pro's around.. SP2340 and SP2009, for example Dlask was selling some awhile ago... those were around $500. But CPO SIG Pro's of any vintage coming inthe orage box and the whole shebang... I have not seen that, at least in my neck of the woods. The reason is probably the same as why we have not seen any CPO 228's, 229's and 239's in Canada. The barrels on the guns originally sold to the police agencies would be prohib in Canada, and you would have to put a new barrel on it before you an ship it to Canada for sale to an individual... and the cost of doing that is going to pretty much defeat the purpose of the CPO idea (cheaper than new).
Then again... given the crazinss of our gun laws, and the pent up demand for "that which cannot be had".... if SIG took 500 CPO 228's and made new 106mm barrels for them... and put them into the Canadian market at the same price point as the brand new 229's.... they would sell them all right away no problem. The same probably goes for the 239's. (HINT HINT... some of you dealers and importers!)
Strangely, the SP2022's with the 106mm barrels do not seem to be moving all that swiftly. I'm wanting to get one, but there doesn't seem to be any shortage of people trying to sell them cheap.
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