andrew3081
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Vancouver, BC
I would go with sig
Sig Sauer P226 vs Glock 17
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I don't know but I think that's extremely likely.
In fact I suspect a current production German 226 would be a better gun than the classic German sigs were.
Clobbersauras
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Waaay out west.
I'm not too sure about that, it's something I would need to investigate carefully before I would purchase.
If I wanted a current production DA/SA pistol and I wanted to be as confident as I could be with reliability, I'd just pick up an HK P30.
Although i have the norinco cloned version of the Sig 226, i find that the clone is my preference over my GLock....If it were the real deal, i believe my choice would not change......However, if you are looking to purchase the Sig....u have a wide variety of choices of the 226 to choose from
both great guns, are easy to find parts for with Sig being a little bit more difficult.
Sig grip is wider than Glock so might not fit your hand properly, E2 grip is slimmer although still thick.
Glock is a better all around, simpler platform. Everybody has one. I would go Glock. I hate Glocks.
Sig grip is wider than Glock so might not fit your hand properly, E2 grip is slimmer although still thick.
Glock is a better all around, simpler platform. Everybody has one. I would go Glock. I hate Glocks.
- Location
- West Quebec
Yes, suspect.... Thoses Internet rumors are quite funny. I owned 2 Sigs. One X Five All Around made in Germany and 1 MK25. Fit and finish is identical and they are both trouble free. Actually no, I had to sent my X-Five to Sig Sauer for a complete overhaul and to replace the extractor, mostly because I shot more than 15,000 rounds through that pistol.
M&P had issues, Glock had issues, Sig had issues. So should we stop buying pistol because some joe-schmo got a bad one?
Kinda an "apples to oranges" thing going on here ... And everyone knows oranges are way better..
And for ipsc buy the glock 34 or 35. I love my glocks but the longer barrel will get you that little more accuracy that's missing shooting the glock.
The m&p pro series is also worth a look
And for ipsc buy the glock 34 or 35. I love my glocks but the longer barrel will get you that little more accuracy that's missing shooting the glock.
The m&p pro series is also worth a look
I have both and wouldn't sell either one. They are very different beasts though. It's obviously not like comparing the Glock to the M&P. Don't get me wrong, I love the Sig, but if I could grab only one from the safe, it would be the Glock.
Definitely not...However I would consider avoiding a manufacturer if, for example, every single 200+ unit order in a given year resulted in some failures due to a lack of QC...which happened at SIG. Now in some of those cases, only one out of 200+ guns didn't work properly.
But not in all of those cases.
Previously their QC was handled by a third party paid to find problems and every gun was checked. That is not done at the US plant. You may well get a totally trouble-free gun, but statistically, did their problems increase significantly post 2005? Absolutely. And while that may not be discernible on an individual gun, on a larger scale it does generate issues.
So should we start buying guns with known issues because some joe-schmo got a good one?
I would say no to that as well, personally.
Again I believe the robust design of the 226 has made it more resistant to SIG's problems and I think they're still one of the better bets going. But are they on par with the out-of-the-box reliability of the West German 226s? Statistically, no, they are not, and given the change in QC processes there I think that's not very surprising.
I've shot both due to work.
SIG226
PROS:
-DA/SA trigger
-Heavy construction, feels less ''snappy''
CONS:
-Fat grip for my average sized hands (yes youcan change them but didn't like it from the box)
-Read this one very carefully: TO ME it is overpriced
Glock17
PROS:
-Easy to find parts and if you're a bit handy, no need for a gunsmith
-Ajustable back straps if needed (no need to buy a kit)
-Eats any ammo
-Affordable (use the s$$ you didnt use for buying a SIG for more ammo as its been said)
Cons:
-all the glock haters will tell you you made the wrong choice
I chose a Glock17gen4 and I dont regret it. Love the trigger once you mastered the trigger reset and got it with the trijicon factory night sight, couldn't stand the plastic sight on the service pistol I used.
SIG226
PROS:
-DA/SA trigger
-Heavy construction, feels less ''snappy''
CONS:
-Fat grip for my average sized hands (yes youcan change them but didn't like it from the box)
-Read this one very carefully: TO ME it is overpriced
Glock17
PROS:
-Easy to find parts and if you're a bit handy, no need for a gunsmith
-Ajustable back straps if needed (no need to buy a kit)
-Eats any ammo
-Affordable (use the s$$ you didnt use for buying a SIG for more ammo as its been said)
Cons:
-all the glock haters will tell you you made the wrong choice
I chose a Glock17gen4 and I dont regret it. Love the trigger once you mastered the trigger reset and got it with the trijicon factory night sight, couldn't stand the plastic sight on the service pistol I used.
Because hardly anybody here shoots enough to notice it. CGN is a lousy litmus test for any firearm.
That's an arrogant comment, you have no idea what people shoot on here. There are guys im sure on here that could show you a thing or two. They just spend more time shooting then posting. Im not including myself in the list so dont worry.
And how many shoot a 226? Realistically, are there significantly more than 200 226s in private hands in this country being run hard? Probably not. But even if there's a thousand, which I think is very unlikely, statistically, should we see more than a handful - five at most - with issues? No.
It's not arrogance...it's familiarity with the numbers. Most people just don't shoot much. Of the people who shoot a lot, most are probably shooting sports like IPSC. Is the 226 particularly common in IPSC? Not really, in my experience. So not that many 226s are likely to be run hard by private individuals in this country. And of those that do, how many are, as you describe, shooting more than posting? So even if these guns are being discovered, what are the odds that it will get major airtime here?
So odds are very good that unless there is an absolutely apocalyptically bad problem with the 226, it won't really turn up on CGN.
Actually, probably not a huge number and I'm guessing he already shoots and trains with most of them. That aside, statistics aren't arrogant - that's the bugger about them. A while ago I took a course and somebody made a comment about us just being a bunch of average Canadian shooters - it struck me that we were anything but a group of average Canadian shooters. We had just spent 2 full days shooting round after round - more than the "average" shooter shoots in several months looking for exactly the right draw stroke, sight alignment, trigger control and follow through and we had done it with a professional coaching, critiquing and cajoling us all the way. We did it standing, kneeling, strong hand, weak hand, behind and around barricades, and while moving. The "average Canadian Shooter" doesn't do that, he shoots a few boxes a month, hits the paper and goes home - I see a different version of them every week or two, and I rarely see the same guy twice.
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Ok i missread your post then as I assumed it was more directed at the members of CGN then it was the statics of who runs sigs. Still i bet there are several on here, who we may never hear of that have 1000s of rounds down their sigs. I know one Platoon Captain that has a bunch of sigs and he swears by them. For the sake of this thread, to the op, id choose a Glock. Parts availability everywhere, no hammer drops or safeties to worry about, just draw and shoot.
There are plenty of sigs being used in Canada by professionals as a sidearm. More then enough to be a test sample for the reliability of sigs. I know the RNC in NL use them and I think the Vancouver PD. Someone posted a list on here once, by department on who runs what in Canada. There were more sigs then i thought.
Google search says OPP, Canadian Navy, Canadian Special Forces, Military Police, all use Sig P226s as well as the two i mentioned above.
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Glock got its reputation by word of mouth, as tonnes of Police Forces carry them. The Gun community is pretty close net community, so i figure that with all those agencies above using sigs P226's, that if their was major problems with QA we would have heard about it by now, and yes even on here.
