Sigs...What's the big deal if they are not German

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blackacres said:
Rackman, as you created this thread and asked for opinions, comments, etc. on US vs German Sigs, which you received from many long term CGN members.
Why do you argue, ignore and dispute a number of very similar comments on this question/issue from members on here that have a lot of knowledge on this topic?

Besides, you even mention above "I mean, I'm no expert, I don't have formal training in firearm design or manufacturing". So perhaps you should listen a bit to those that do! He**, you even dipute and ignore a former Sig executive's (Mr. Green)comments on the very issue your asked input on!!!

I see you purchased a US made Sig 1911, which is a very nice pistol, in fact I think it is one of the better 1911 clones out there.

Your question does not even apply to that pistol, as it was never made in Germany!

So, enjoy your new Sig and be done with it.

I own 8 pistols, two German made Sigs and four German made H&Ks, an early 80's Colt CGNM 1911 and an Isreal made DE (just for fun).

As I mentioned in my earlier post in this thread, I had a chance to purchase two new fully German made/assembled 2XX Sigs for the same price as the US made counterparts.
Knowing that the German guns main parts (frame, slide and barrel) are matched at the start of production and then handfitted by skilled gunsmiths, using all 'in house' made parts, it was an easy decision to purchase these guns instead of a US gun.

HK still manufacturer all of their gun parts in house, all of theit guns, apart from the HK45, which is only assembled in the US using German made parts, are all fully German made.
A HK representative I met recently, joked to me that they are very, very reluctant to trust the US to produce their guns after seeing what happened to Sigs quality!!!

This is not "hearsay", I met the German HK military arms rep. on a flight home and we chatted for about an hour about HK guns when he made the above statement.

Ever thought why even Glock still make all of their guns in Austria and have not opened a plant in the US?

From my working experience (QA Auditor) with the US manufacturing industry, if they can find an easier, cheaper way to make a part, using a material that will just meet specification, they will! And we all know they struggle with QA on a fairly regular basis.

Again, just enjoy your Sig 1911.
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You haven't comprehended my comments correctly at all. I'm not totally disagreeing at all that German made Sigs may be better....I'm saying for the last time, that there doesn't seem to be a PROFOUND reason to avoid buying US Sigs. That is why I initially asked the question....to find out if there was a significant reason to avoid US made Sigs....there is not...not having quite as nice fit and finish is not a PROFOUND reason. Of course I will enjoy my Sig, as I enjoy all my firearms. Seems to me that it's actually owners of German made Sigs that are going out of their way to justify their purchase. Or they just have too much ego tied up in their German Sigs. And I'm well aware of the fact that Sig 1911s are not available as German made, but I'm planning a purchase of a Sig 220 in the near future as well. If , when I'm ready to buy, there happens to be a German made one available for the same price as a US one, I will probably get the German one. Also, in my experience, "former employees" are not always the best sources of info about their former company as they may have a bone to pick. As to me not listening to the people you are claiming to be experts...I don't know you or any of these so-called experts...everybody's an expert in cyberspace. I buy all my firearms by doing my own actual research first and then going in and physically handling the firearm and most of the time also renting or borrowing someone's firearm to shoot before I make any decisions. If that doesn't make my position clear enough, we can end this the same way I end discussions with others that cannot be wrong...you are right, I am wrong...German made Sigs are perfect and US made ones are crap.;)
 
I personnay think quality control is better in Germany.


It's also nice to have a German designed weapon made in Germany.

But, because of the price difference, i do have to admit both of my sigs are from the states
 
Beating a dead horse, exactly. When someone asks opinions and has no experience and won't take other peoples opinions to heart and continues to disagree is just beating a dead horse. I can't believe I got sucked into one of these threads again. Always seems to be someone who already has their mind made up.
 
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