Single Stack Div?

My read of Single Stack Division is that it is for Colt 1911 models only. Other single stack designs are not welcome. The division should rightly be named the "1911 Division".
Restricting divisions to a single design model would not be a good idea in the long run. I don't think it would work for any other model design other than the 1911 (except may the GLOCK). Single stack division's success lies solely with the continuing love affair with the Colt 1911 by the USA, a love affair that shows no sign of ever fading.
 
There's a bigger delta between Modified and Open...than there is between Standard and Single Stack.

It's just a numbers game because of the number of single stacks around...but IMHO...not a sufficient enough reason to create another Division. All it will do is split the Standard shooters in two groups.

There should be only 3 three Divisions

1- Standard Division (with additional Categories for Single Stack and Double Action)
2- Open (with an additional Categorie for Modifed)
3 -Revolver



darkshadow said:
If modified still has support in the world, and revolver has less (even though I have never even seen a modified gun but plenty of shooters competing with wheel guns)

Why not make a new division of limited 8, still has to fit in the box but only up-to 8 rounds allowed, so 6, 7, and 8 shot revolvers are OK too. Although this still sounds like to would still pretty much kill wheelguns.


WHAT is so unique about modified anyway? I really don't see ANY Major difference, Open should absorb Mod

would leave us with 5 Very distinct divisions:

Revolver, production, single stack(Limited 8), standard, Open.




But think it would be cool to have an open revolver division, so up to 8 rounders, comps and optics, purely for the cool factor.

Anybody?
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I like USPSA's SS div.

"... maximum rounds loaded in any
magazine after the start signal
-Major Power Factor - 8 rounds
-Minor Power Factor - 10 rounds"

Makes for some interesting decision making. Shoot major and possibly deal more mag changes or shoot minor and shoot all "A"s :)

I like that more than a straight Limited 8 style div.

John
 
It all hurts me because I search long and far and finally got some 9 round mags for my 40, guess I should have stuck with the 8's if this sticks around:D


I don't want to see IPSC separated in to divisions for every little niche. So say you got 90% and 3ed place out of 10 shooters doesn't mean much as out of a full group of 40-60 shooters.
 
hungrybeagle said:
Modified has a minimum caliber size of .40. I believe the idea was to create "realistic carry guns" ...
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I'm pretty sure that one of the ideas behind modified was to encourage innovation in design of optics and comps. I think it'd be a shame to see it go, the ingenuity in some of the designs is inspiring.
 
Shelldrake said:
My read of Single Stack Division is that it is for Colt 1911 models only. Other single stack designs are not welcome. The division should rightly be named the "1911 Division".
Restricting divisions to a single design model would not be a good idea in the long run. I don't think it would work for any other model design other than the 1911 (except may the GLOCK). Single stack division's success lies solely with the continuing love affair with the Colt 1911 by the USA, a love affair that shows no sign of ever fading.
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If you get into the discussion over on GV, the IPSC Secretary and the majority there would prefer to see a Singlestack division with all guns that are single stack, but they and we all know that in the end, it would be a 1911 dominated division. (Just like IPSC was before production or Standard and Open are now)

You've got a good point, though - 1911s are popular in this end of the world, but IPSC is world-wide and 1911s are not the #1 gun in other parts.
Hence a reluctance & possible votes that could kill acceptance of the division in Greece.

My take: When we had the exemptions, it wasn't necessary, but now that they're gone and the SS are further at a disadvantage in Standard - there's a place for it.
Quigley's sub-division idea has merit too.
 
Quigley said:
There's a bigger delta between Modified and Open...than there is between Standard and Single Stack.

It's just a numbers game because of the number of single stacks around...but IMHO...not a sufficient enough reason to create another Division. All it will do is split the Standard shooters in two groups.

There should be only 3 three Divisions

1- Standard Division (with additional Categories for Single Stack and Double Action)
2- Open (with an additional Categorie for Modifed)
3 -Revolver
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I like your idea.
IMO a newer division shouldn't come in at the expense of another division, whether they are doing well or not. I'd rather see the energy put into growing a division instead of using it to tick off a group of dedicated shooters.
 
Quigley, if you get rid of the allied equipment rule it won't be practical anymore now will it?
FV, A's are all worth 5 points and I thought it was about managing the recoil.
Darkshadow, Halloween candy and coke? Skittles and coffee work way better.
ADHD? Wanna ride go ride bikes?
 
I was trying to remember the name of the Mike Myers Character from SNL that had to wear a helmet and harness.

"one time my Mom gave me a snickers and a coke and I towed the car home.....I was really tired"

:D
 
std. division has the highest # of shooters in it right now, and a single stack division would definitely divide that by small margin..

I would still continue in std. division if so, to stay with the big guns and compete in such...maybe once in a while in SS division for fun...

planning not to miss worlds in Greece, so i'll have to get a dble stack .40 soon ....
 
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