SIR/Cabela SKS pics

I do plan to call them as soon as I get mine (tonight!) and assess its status. It's clear that the folks who called us lied. They may not have known it; the information they were given and asked to provide us was wrong. What I will ask SIR is that they refund me the excess amount they required to get a "better than initially advertized" rifle - well from the looks of it, that's not what I expect to see tonight anyways...

Lou
 
I predict they will tell you to send it back for a refund - there will be someone else willing to buy it at the price - I seriously doubt they will be giving away any "compensation".
I did send them an Email expressing my displeasure and the intent to seriously consider any future purchases with them (haven't heard back) but I don't expect anything to come of it.
If you aren't happy with your SKS, there seems to be no trouble selling them on the EE - you might even make a dollar on it ;)
 
OK, my SIR/Cabella saga is over.

Frank called me to say that they would not sell the two rifles I ordered for the orginial price of 169.99.

He says the orginal order was for Type 56 Chinese rifles. They called them "Russian" becasue they were Siminovs. he says they knew they were made in China, not Russia.

The new shipment is Russian rifles and they cost more.

I was giving them the benfit of the doubt, thinking they were just ignorant. It is now clear they are deceptive. No thanks. Never again.
 
Well ok, I say crap then...

Of course I'll keep the rifle, but I will tell SIR they perform a vacuum-induced movement of fluid, either in gaseous or liquid form. (they suck)

Ganderite said:
OK, my SIR/Cabella saga is over.

Frank called me to say that they would not sell the two rifles I ordered for the orginial price of 169.99.

He says the orginal order was for Type 56 Chinese rifles. They called them "Russian" becasue they were Siminovs. he says they knew they were made in China, not Russia.

The new shipment is Russian rifles and they cost more.

I was giving them the benfit of the doubt, thinking they were just ignorant. It is now clear they are deceptive. No thanks. Never again.
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Ganderite said:
OK, my SIR/Cabella saga is over.

He says the orginal order was for Type 56 Chinese rifles. They called them "Russian" becasue they were Siminovs. he says they knew they were made in China, not Russia.

The new shipment is Russian rifles and they cost more.
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I distinctly remember them advertised as 'Russian' - not Chinese!
 
Ganderite said:
OK, my SIR/Cabella saga is over.

Frank called me to say that they would not sell the two rifles I ordered for the orginial price of 169.99.

He says the orginal order was for Type 56 Chinese rifles. They called them "Russian" becasue they were Siminovs. he says they knew they were made in China, not Russia.

The new shipment is Russian rifles and they cost more.

I was giving them the benfit of the doubt, thinking they were just ignorant. It is now clear they are deceptive. No thanks. Never again.
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That's BS.

I have S.I.R. e-mails from last year that state they are Russian rifles. I would not have placed an order for Chinese rifles at those prices back then.

Who wants to start a group BBB complaint?
 
After I saw pictures of rifles delivered I called SIR yesterday to cancel my order. I'd be better off to place my order with Frontier, but who knew?).
Anyway, when I told I am about to cancel my order for a few reasons and one of them is that actual price is not what was advertised back then, sales rep went on saying "those in a few aspects are much better rifles as been advertised".
I shut him off saying I've seen a few of them, thanks but not this time.
 
I canceled my order with SIR when I saw the quality of the stuff other people got.
Anyway, I received a canceled invoice from SIR and at the end it says:
"We are sorry for any inconvenience YOU may have been caused"
That was a good one.
 
They aren't that bad.Mine looks like it will turn out to be a nice shooter.Rifling is sharp and the important parts are well machined and look good.It is mostly cosmetic what people are complaining over, and we were spoilt by all the nice Izzy unissued that people got.If you are a collector ,then look elswhere, but as shooting irons they will do the job.It seems most think like I do and those put up for sale were snapped up quick.I took the black off the bolt.That paint was quite tenacious.
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gandalfe said:
.That paint was quite tenacious.
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good job , looks great already . how about a pic further back from the rifle ?

could you tell us how you removed the paint from the carrier (how long it took you?) and did you do it to the bolt too?
 
I used brake fluid and let it sit for 15 minutes.Used a wire brush on a drill and used a dowel with some steel wool for the spring recess.Did the bolt as well.Finished it off with a buffer wheel using green buffing compound.The buffing wasn't completely nesessary as a polishing cloth works well.
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Finally got mine home. Ugly as hell. The paint will come off the bolt, and the stock will get fresh shellac, but the rest of the metal (barrel etc) was painted and looks... well...

Well it's a "shooter's" for sure!

Lou
 
Looking closer at the finish on my rifle, I realized it is actually black phosphate (parkerized); deep and silky vs. a thin and dull standard black oxide job.

Spectre said:
Those sights are parkerized.

All but one of mine are grey parked, the other is blued like my Chinese SKS's.
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I don't think they are parkerized. They look bead blasted, painted and baked to me. I don't think there is any way parkerizing should wash off with lacquer thinner. We tried a spot on a friends Refurb the other day and it washes off. I'd bet the metal is roughed up with some kind of very fine blasting abrasive in a blasting cabinet to make the paint adhere well by the looks of things, then they are washed, painted and baked, lubed, reassembled.
Al
 
Think you're right Al. The paint on the barrel, receiver etc reminds me of something like what I think is called "krinkled" finish. Actually, looks more like an improperly applied BBQ paint job!

Yesterday, I stripped the paint off the parts of the bolt (simply with my metal brush on my bench wheel), already an improvement.

The stock will need a bit of work. I think some dents were caused by the botched packing job at SIR. Looks like they hired 5 year old kids to do this. Wait, when my boys were 5, they would have done a better job than what was done at SIR. The rifle was loose in the box, there was a little bit of paper here and there (to cushion some blows I suppose?). Pathetic.

There was sand in some places on the rifle. Go figure.

Looks to be functional at least!

Will post pics as soon as I can... (some before and after...)
 
No idea, but it's not a SIR, and in terms of $$$ phosphating is simpler and cheaper than the hot black oxide process. Probably dependent on who/when refinished them; refinishing was done by several government owned weapons manufacturing companies like Molot, Izhmash etc.


curtton said:
ok , its park but why? why not reblue ?
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kwhunter said:
Looking closer at the finish on my rifle, I realized it is actually black phosphate (parkerized); deep and silky vs. a thin and dull standard black oxide job.
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They are not even close to being parkerized. As a comparison, the grey rear sight found on some of them is parkerized.

Like Lou said, it is some kind of sprayed on, and possibly baked on finish.

I have spots on one of mine where there are runs in the finish. Parkerizing Doesn't run, and it is way more durable.

I was thinking it reminds me of BBQ paint too.

I cleaned one rifle yesterday and it actually seems more durable a finish than I originally thought it was, but it is no match for a good park job.
 
dinsdale said:
You going to refinish the stock Lou?
My stock is in decent shape but the front hand grooves are crappy. Looks like the lacquer pooled in them.

Not sure whether I will refinish or not.
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Yup, my stock begs for it, needs it. Will clean it first with Methyl Hydrate, then a fresh coat of shellac, that's all.

If there are parts that have excess shellac on your stock, light cleaning with methyl hydrate may be just what is required. the m.h. will disolve the shellac and "redistribute" it more evenly, even remove excess, depending how careful or lucky or skillful you are :)

Shellac is not the easiest finish to apply evenly on uneven surfaces though. But that's what goes on a Russian SKS, no matter how ugly it is...

Lou
 
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