SKS mag adapter

Red, great idea and work but you made a big mistake in giving him the details. I know you had no intention of mass producing it but you still gave it away.

If 1mlt does have patent (BIG IF) then i guess everyone else is screwed, if he decides to take legal action.

NEVER EVER give your idea to other people, unless your a really nice fellow who only wants to make other people rich.
 
Yea i was an idiot. Whats worse is i've had manufacturers from China ask me about making the adapter in China for cheap and i refused not wanting to offshore my own ideas, something that has brought North America to her knees


Red, great idea and work but you made a big mistake in giving him the details. I know you had no intention of mass producing it but you still gave it away.

If 1mlt does have patent (BIG IF) then i guess everyone else is screwed, if he decides to take legal action.

NEVER EVER give your idea to other people, unless your a really nice fellow who only wants to make other people rich.
 
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That video is great.

Im not a patent agent but...

That info, from an intellectual property point of view, prooves that there was prior knowledge in the public domain. Thus his patent, if it relates to that is void as his file date is after the date of public release by another person.

I'm sorry that he ripped you off
 
Redliner, why don't you post the details on how to make the adapter you came up with on cgn. I know we all asked for it in the other thread
 
Well for one, posting on here is like yelling it to the world...so while yes, you, the members of this community benefit from it, so does any swinging #### that can make an account on here and then also the entire internet once that person copies the dim's.

We'll see how far this conversation goes and which way. If a certain new member keeps rubbing me the wrong way than i may just post the dimensions, data, pictures and even my 3D CAD files which lets you 3D print the adapters.

Redliner, why don't you post the details on how to make the adapter you came up with on cgn. I know we all asked for it in the other thread
 
Oh this is gonna be good.

When i made my topic about my adapter two and a half years ago and posted it on youtube, Marcus emailed me and asked me how i did the magazine release UNDER the stock. Being helpful i sent a very long and detailed instruction on how to do it, and how i had no plans to mass produce.
Remember boys and girls, up until recently you had to modify the magazines with another mag release hole on their adapter.

Lo and behold a few months after my email back, to which Marcus never responded, another version of the mag comes up, copying the slanted mag release that i came up with.

So for him to come on the very ####ing board that me and a few guys came up with the idea of the canadian legal magazine and wag his finger with his "patent" is pathetic.

Here's the link to the original post.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/845857-LEGAL-10-round-SKS-with-detachable-mag-accomplished!

So yea, my adapter came out Dec 2012.

Oh i found Marcuses post on my youtube video



i also have the copy of my email to Marcus about the adapter.



making something vs having something patented are two very different things. Often getting a patent is substantially more difficult and costly than having an idea and just making something. You can't be angry if someone patented something you think you thought of because you always had the option to patent your idea. Problem is most people don't want to buck up the tens of thousands if not more depending on the complexity to file and successfully complete a claim.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR45SxabqHA
Date published Dec 3, 2011. So whose came first?

And yes, I asked if you were going to produce it. You said no. We had already designed the G7 the previous year (watch the above video). We were looking to improve it. Ours is very different from yours. The basic bodies don't look the same. Our release is on the right side, rear (it always was). Yours is left front. Our body is 2 pieces. Yours is one. We use a 'locking tab' on the front under the rear sight trunnion. We don't know how yours locks into the rifle. Our adapter can be fitted to any SKS. We don't know if yours can. The differences between the 2 adapters is immense. They are not closely related. Do you recall me saying your adapter "looked very familiar"? The date on the G7 video clearly shows we had one prior to your 2012 date.

We filed 'paperwork' with the USPTO last May. That 'process' is still ongoing.

We started making adapters for the SKS in 2008. Our 1st one was called the G1. We now have the G3, G5 and G9. The G7 was scrapped for the G9. We didn't 'steal' anyones design.

Marcus

Regardless of a video I believe people are still waiting for the patent number for the mentioned patent that is held.
 
Where did i say i was angry at that? Im peeved at his holier than thou, firing off with "patent" scare mongering and how they designed it from scratch. I have a problem with that.

Where he put his foot in his mouth is he came with this attitude to the one forum where the Canadian legal sks mag was jointly brainstormed, and put into fruition by this community. I never took the whole credit. Me and a few guys jointly discussed, showed videos and fed ideas off each other. All i wanted credit for was the first to make a fully removable mag, last shot hold bolt open adapter. Thats it. Ive had 2.5 years to develop it and patent it if wanted to. I chose not to as machining is not my cup of tea. I have a 1960s $500 southbend and a chinese $400 3in1 lathe/mill i use to make odds and ends for my many hobbies.

In the end, if i do want to make my adapter Marcus can #### himself as mine is different enough now to infringe on his patent, of which we're not sure it even exists. Good luck patenting a device holding a STANAG magazine as that patent expired along with the ar15 a long time ago.

I have a problem with him trying to scare other inventors from trying other things. If he invented the whole shebang why was he asking how i did the mag release under the stock them coincidentally he comes up with the same sloped release tab as mine, but to the back vs front.

Didnt even have the common courtesy of responding to my helpful email.


making something vs having something patented are two very different things. Often getting a patent is substantially more difficult and costly than having an idea and just making something. You can't be angry if someone patented something you think you thought of because you always had the option to patent your idea. Problem is most people don't want to buck up the tens of thousands if not more depending on the complexity to file and successfully complete a claim.
 
Cute, cept that you invented nothing there but straight out copied ar15 magazine holding and latch system. Too bad that doesnt work in canada as it requires a second mag release detent hold to be cut in the body of the mag making it illegal as it modifies the mag.

Why all the improvements and revisions? If youre the sks mag guru why not come up with the version were at now? Kaybe because as other people came up with better ideas you just took them and made them your own? No worries, at least nod your head in their direction to show some courtesy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR45SxabqHA
Date published Dec 3, 2011. So whose came first?

And yes, I asked if you were going to produce it. You said no. We had already designed the G7 the previous year (watch the above video). We were looking to improve it. Ours is very different from yours. The basic bodies don't look the same. Our release is on the right side, rear (it always was). Yours is left front. Our body is 2 pieces. Yours is one. We use a 'locking tab' on the front under the rear sight trunnion. We don't know how yours locks into the rifle. Our adapter can be fitted to any SKS. We don't know if yours can. The differences between the 2 adapters is immense. They are not closely related. Do you recall me saying your adapter "looked very familiar"? The date on the G7 video clearly shows we had one prior to your 2012 date.

We filed 'paperwork' with the USPTO last May. That 'process' is still ongoing.

We started making adapters for the SKS in 2008. Our 1st one was called the G1. We now have the G3, G5 and G9. The G7 was scrapped for the G9. We didn't 'steal' anyones design.

Marcus
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR45SxabqHA
Date published Dec 3, 2011. So whose came first?

And yes, I asked if you were going to produce it. You said no. We had already designed the G7 the previous year (watch the above video). We were looking to improve it. Ours is very different from yours. The basic bodies don't look the same. Our release is on the right side, rear (it always was). Yours is left front. Our body is 2 pieces. Yours is one. We use a 'locking tab' on the front under the rear sight trunnion. We don't know how yours locks into the rifle. Our adapter can be fitted to any SKS. We don't know if yours can. The differences between the 2 adapters is immense. They are not closely related. Do you recall me saying your adapter "looked very familiar"? The date on the G7 video clearly shows we had one prior to your 2012 date.

We filed 'paperwork' with the USPTO last May. That 'process' is still ongoing.

We started making adapters for the SKS in 2008. Our 1st one was called the G1. We now have the G3, G5 and G9. The G7 was scrapped for the G9. We didn't 'steal' anyones design.

Marcus

hey hey wait a minute. You only just filed with the USPTO? So you are in fact patent pending, and not patented and that's a huge difference. It takes about 4 years to have a patent approved and pending means absolutely nothing. The USPTO approves almost anything to pending status and then reviews and rejects later based on other filings. And if you filed last year and someone filed last year and a month they get the patent. and not you.

Unless I am completely misunderstanding your ramblings here - if you are only patent pending you don't have a single legal leg to stand on and have no business whatsoever telling people you hold a patent of any sort.

some people here might have actually gone through this process and know a thing or two about it. (me for instance)

you can't call something patented if it's pending.
 
Yada, yada, yada.....LOL. I don't give a sh1t about the politics of it all.
Thanks Marcus for building it and sending it to me. I love it and it works GREAT ! You helped me change my pathetic 5 rounder to 10. All is good.
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