Sks or vz58?

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I'm about ready for my next purchase and i want to join the red rifle club. I've been stewing over either an tactical sks or going for the bigger boy the vz58.
I'm curious to hear from some owners of both what they like about their favourite rifle over the other.
Google seems to pit alot of vz vs ak so its hard to find good information.
 
I have an SKS, its probably my favorite rifle to shoot, I am going to buy a VZ next, then get the B&T Magwell adapter from wolverine supplies, it allows you to use the XCR 10 shot pistol mags. The SKS is pretty heavy and from what I have shot, the VZ has a waaaay better tigger. But the cost of an SKS, and now that they have great scope mounts (Wanstalls and other stores carry them) I dunno, accuracy wise, I did no notice much difference.
 
The question is do you want to spend $200 or $750. Just a guess on the price. I like my factory sks over the one with the ati stock. Rate of fire is about 40 per minute on stripper clips.(just practice). No it isn't un pinned.
 
Mr_jonny said:
The question is do you want to spend $200 or $750. Just a guess on the price. I like my factory sks over the one with the ati stock. Rate of fire is about 40 per minute on stripper clips.(just practice). No it isn't un pinned.
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$750 for VZ 58? Where? The cheapest price I ever seen was $860 + tax + shipping, so it'll be more $200-$230 vs $1000 :(
 
i have both. the vz is lighter, shorter, and has a way better mag release. just because the mag release on a vz is so much better i dont even care for an sks myself.
 
if you go vz 58 make sure you go vz 58 and not cz 858, the chrome lined bore matters when shooting steel cased ammo, lacquer buildup affects the chamber on a non- chrome lined bore a lot more than a chrome lined chamber, which the cz 858 does not have

therein lies the catch, the vz 58 is restricted but the cz 858 are non restricted

I will say both are superior to the sks in principal but in reality the cz 858 is inferior to a sks with a chrome lined bore because it's a deal breaker. The sks is probably wins over anything bar none in reliability
 
ceilingcat said:
if you go vz 58 make sure you go vz 58 and not cz 858, the chrome lined bore matters when shooting steel cased ammo, lacquer buildup affects the chamber on a non- chrome lined bore a lot more than a chrome lined chamber, which the cz 858 does not have

therein lies the catch, the vz 58 is restricted but the cz 858 are non restricted

I will say both are superior to the sks in principal but in reality the cz 858 is inferior to a sks with a chrome lined bore because it's a deal breaker. The sks is probably wins over anything bar none in reliability
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They make a non restricted VZ 58.
 
Vz has a milled steel receiver, striker fired mechanism, detachable magazines, is fairly llight and still used today by half decent armies. The sks is cheaper. Buy it is cheaper for a reason. It's not as good.
 
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My intention for an sks because i'm not Fan of the hardwood stock on an sks would be to throw in a stock, detachable mags, scout scope and some type of foregrip. So after im done turning the sks into what i want it to be, im already in the price range of a vz.
Its a tough question. I appreciate all the opinions
 
ceilingcat said:
if you go vz 58 make sure you go vz 58 and not cz 858, the chrome lined bore matters when shooting steel cased ammo, lacquer buildup affects the chamber on a non- chrome lined bore a lot more than a chrome lined chamber, which the cz 858 does not have

therein lies the catch, the vz 58 is restricted but the cz 858 are non restricted

I will say both are superior to the sks in principal but in reality the cz 858 is inferior to a sks with a chrome lined bore because it's a deal breaker. The sks is probably wins over anything bar none in reliability
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What the hell ?

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about....

Cz 858 is available in NR and restricted version. The restricted versions has a chrome lined barrel.

CSA vz 58 is also available in NR and restricted versions. Some NR versions also have a chrome lined barrel.

Some SKS do not have a chrome lined barrel. Most of them have a chrome lined barrel but not a chromed chamber.

Plus the lacquer build up thing you are talking about is pure BS, especially seeing you dont make the difference between chromed barrel and a chromed chamber. Only advantage to have a chrome lined barrel is to protect against overheating (mainly useful for automatic weapons) and to protect against corrosion (useless if you clean after shooting).


ztunelover said:
Vz has a milled aluminum receiver, striker fired mechanism, detachable magazines, is fairly llight and still used today by half decent armies. The sks is cheaper. Buy it is cheaper for a reason. It's not as good.
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Also, wtf...

Its steel.
 
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ztunelover said:
Vz has a milled aluminum receiver, striker fired mechanism, detachable magazines, is fairly llight and still used today by half decent armies. The sks is cheaper. Buy it is cheaper for a reason. It's not as good.
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The SKS is cheaper because it's military surplus. Just like you can buy a great military surplus Mauser for $300 and a new one is over $1000.
 
(quote ztunelover) Vz has a milled aluminum receiver, striker fired mechanism, detachable magazines, is fairly llight and still used today by half decent armies. The sks is cheaper. Buy it is cheaper for a reason. It's not as good.

aluminum receiver? where did you hear that from? it is clearly steel.
 
And I might add that there's not an SKS failure thread started on the site every single week....odd considering there's ten times or more SKS out there compared to Vz/Cz 58/858's.....
 
I've owned a CZ858 for years and never had a problem. I've also owed a few SKS' s and enjoyed it the same. The only real difference is the tacticool factor. The CZ it bad a$$ out of the box. I've heard of lot of issues with the CSA VZ58 but not as many as the CZ858.
Try to handle both and see what you like better. You might end up with both!
 
Wow, yeah, SKS IS ONLY cheaper because there is a MASSIVE stock pile of them, the VZ would be near the same price if that were the case with them. Let me say, SKS's are total tanks, also, dont let chrome lined barrel be the deal breaker between the two, Chinese SKS's are chrome lined, remember that the bore of a chrome lined barrel is slightly larger then a non chrome lined barrel to make room the process of chroming the bore (I am talking a few thousands of an inch here) And thats why people argue chinese sks's are not as accurate as the russian made ones(The advantage of chrome lined barrels are, easier to clean as, and are much better at with standing heat, if you are taking your SKs into battle, chrome lined would be a great thing to have :D)
 
I own 2 sks and one cz858.

If you want tactical and detachable mags go with the cz858. I used to have an sks in tapco stock and tapco mags, and the stock was actually pretty nice but the mags are complete sh!t. I sold the tapco'd sks and just have an original sks. It is an insanely reliable though rifle which is why I still own sks even though my cz gets 10 times more range time

My advice would be get both but it seems like a cz would fit your needs better then a tapcod sks
 
Get both, as neither will break the bank. Personally, I prefer the Russian SKS, for many reasons... one of which is 100% stone axe reliability. It goes boom every time. I also like the feel of a carbine, especially when firing prone.
 
I have owned 3 sks rifles and they have all functioned flawlessly... I owned one CZ858 and it had a Gremlin :(

I prefer the SKS personally ... cheaper and works every time you pull the trigger ... reliability trumps looks for me

plus the money you save on the rifle can go towards ammo :)
 
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