Just finished cleaning up the shotgun, and have been thinking about how far removed the powers that be are from the day to day lives of farmers. Two nights ago was just going to bed when I heard some growling coming from a old shed so grabbed a light and the shotgun and went to look. Was two coons fighting over what was left of the cat food. Got one and thought I got some in the other but he got away. Tonight I just had fed the cats and was looking at something when I heard some crunching behind me, when I looked around there was a skunk eating the cat food. Went to the house and got the shotgun. Hated to shoot him in the shed but sometimes if you hit them in the spinal area they don't piss, so blasted him. Was watching and waiting to see if he had pissed or not when another one came from around the corner and then another one. Anyways had to shoot quick as they were heading for the door so got them all but man talk about a stink. I suppose there are people who would say, well why would you shoot them poor little rascals. They were not hurting you, and so on. Well fact is they all carry rabies at times and the more there are, the more chance. As well I buy cat food for the cats, not coons and skunks. Point is, I wonder if any of these liberal gun control people have any idea of what its like in the real world.
Skunks and Liberals
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As a former card-carrying Liberal, I can assure you that most of us don't give a frak if you need to control pests, enjoy hunting, shooting sports, plinking, mag dumping or whatever you do to enjoy your firearms in a safe manner. We only start disliking guns when people start acting irresponsibly with them, particulairly things that involve humans as targets.
The long gun registry is certainly a failure, you won't find many Liberals jumping to defend it anymore. It was well intentioned but unfortunately turned too much attention to responsible owners and cost eighty bajillion times more than it should have. The road to hell is paved with good intentions though and this kind of thing happens no matter which political party is in power; Diefenbaker cancelled the Avro Arrow afterall.
But for your particular instance, I'd say that they were very in touch as half the section of the storage of non-restricted firearms in the Act specifically addresses your concern and details that it is very much okay to do what you do.
If you get that many skunks, you should set snares and sell the pelts on ebay. Apparently skunks pelts sell for up to $35 US. Ontario does not seem to have a closed season on skunk, not sure what you need for a trapping license though.
The long gun registry is certainly a failure, you won't find many Liberals jumping to defend it anymore. It was well intentioned but unfortunately turned too much attention to responsible owners and cost eighty bajillion times more than it should have. The road to hell is paved with good intentions though and this kind of thing happens no matter which political party is in power; Diefenbaker cancelled the Avro Arrow afterall.
But for your particular instance, I'd say that they were very in touch as half the section of the storage of non-restricted firearms in the Act specifically addresses your concern and details that it is very much okay to do what you do.
If you get that many skunks, you should set snares and sell the pelts on ebay. Apparently skunks pelts sell for up to $35 US. Ontario does not seem to have a closed season on skunk, not sure what you need for a trapping license though.
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Athropod, liberal gun enthusiasts are the exception to the rule, perhaps even an aberration. By definition liberals want the government to look after the flock. The principles of individual rights, self-reliance and personal responsibility are foreign to them. The gun is a tool of the self-reliant, and liberals want guns available only to those who would use them as an interesting diversion at the range or to those who value their collection as a curiosity. Liberals don't understand that Canada has a gun culture. Liberals don't understand that defence of life and property is an individual inalienable right, because liberals do not recognise the rights of the individual, believing that laws must be enacted for the benefit of society as a whole or for the benefit of an identifiable group. Therefore it is not possible for a liberal to have any idea what guns are for or what real life is about. We see this often when a liberal politicians underscores his/her ignorance by saying that guns have no purpose in Canadian society. There isn't much common ground here. Our lives would be much simpler and more interesting if they just returned to their own planet.
M12shooter
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Skunks and Liberals..funny the two are mentioned in the same sentance...
Perhaps this has moved into the political category, but would just like to say that I think the safety courses, safe storage, and police checkout is OK but it is the registry. There is only one purpose for it, and that is eventual confiscation. It solves no crimes, stops no crimes so what is it for. Every other country that has done it, has confiscated. The liberals believe that all things should be run by them and the populace at large are just sheep, harmless and quite manageable. Sadly most of them are not aware that they have lost their freedom.
Yep the general public are sheep, they have been since the begining of time.
I could go on a long time on the subject but will try to stay on the original topic.
I may not be a farmer but do live in a rural area, hunt many farms, and am exposed to agricultural life on a daily basis. Around here it's common to have neighbors pass the word around if a certain farm has lost a calf, our kids find their first jobs helping out on the farms. You can always get someone to tow you out of a ditch in the winter (tractors are the original transformers and can do much more then haul a hay cart ). In a word rural life means being a little more self-sufficient then in the urban areas. That also is true when it comes to hunting and firearms. Why do more people that live in rural areas hunt then folks that live in urban centers....it's really a no-brainer. Access to land, exposure to the sport, exposure to firearms at an earlier age.... the list can go on and on.
The other aspect of farming that many folks have no clue about is the fact that most farms are BIG business. Like any business it's about the bottom line. If an animal is sick to the point of no return most farmers will dispatch the animal in question themselves. The costs of vet bills add up on a working farm and it would make no business sense to pay a vet to do what you can do yourself. Let a rabid animal infect other farm animals and the costs can quickly reach the thousands in losses.
My point is that the divide between Rural and Urban often mirrors Liberal and Conservative areas. It has alot to do with exposure and social conditioning. What is a normal occurance for someone in a rural setting can be percieved as "Barbaric" in urban folks.
I could go on a long time on the subject but will try to stay on the original topic. I may not be a farmer but do live in a rural area, hunt many farms, and am exposed to agricultural life on a daily basis. Around here it's common to have neighbors pass the word around if a certain farm has lost a calf, our kids find their first jobs helping out on the farms. You can always get someone to tow you out of a ditch in the winter (tractors are the original transformers and can do much more then haul a hay cart ). In a word rural life means being a little more self-sufficient then in the urban areas. That also is true when it comes to hunting and firearms. Why do more people that live in rural areas hunt then folks that live in urban centers....it's really a no-brainer. Access to land, exposure to the sport, exposure to firearms at an earlier age.... the list can go on and on.
The other aspect of farming that many folks have no clue about is the fact that most farms are BIG business. Like any business it's about the bottom line. If an animal is sick to the point of no return most farmers will dispatch the animal in question themselves. The costs of vet bills add up on a working farm and it would make no business sense to pay a vet to do what you can do yourself. Let a rabid animal infect other farm animals and the costs can quickly reach the thousands in losses.
My point is that the divide between Rural and Urban often mirrors Liberal and Conservative areas. It has alot to do with exposure and social conditioning. What is a normal occurance for someone in a rural setting can be percieved as "Barbaric" in urban folks.
Yeah..... liebrals and skunks.... I live in southern Saskatchewan and could not imagine what this area would be like if we weren't shooting skunks. They are the filthiest, stinkingest, ugliest, most disgusting animal.... and that's the good part!! There few things more satisfying than blasting a skunk at close range with a 12 ga., especially from behind!!
we use to shoot them off the front lawn at night cause they were digging for grubs. even with a 22 short, if ya hit them right and they dont know your there they will rarely piss. we use to take them in the head with a heavy birdshot. but dad shot one up a dead end culvert once with the 12. 3 days later in the summer heat man did it stink, and stunk for a month.
as far as the liebrals go i have one question for any of them,,,,,,,,
IF YOU DONT THINK I HAVE THE ABILITY TO RUN MY OWN LIFE, WHAT GIVES YOU THE FU***** CREDENTIALS TO THINK YOU CAN DO IT FOR ME, NOW PI$$ OFF LIEBRALS AND LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!
as far as the liebrals go i have one question for any of them,,,,,,,,
IF YOU DONT THINK I HAVE THE ABILITY TO RUN MY OWN LIFE, WHAT GIVES YOU THE FU***** CREDENTIALS TO THINK YOU CAN DO IT FOR ME, NOW PI$$ OFF LIEBRALS AND LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!
beretta boy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Orillia, Ontario
I could give a rat's ass for either skunks or Liberals !
You might guess I'm a country boy too.
You might be less bothered by skunks & coons, etc. if you fed your cat's earlier in the day and picked-up their food pans well-before dark so there was no excess food left around. Your "problem" with wildlife is self-induced.
And yes, when all else fails, "Tiple S" animal control works too.
( Shoot, Shovel & Shut-up )
I think the Liberals in Toronto with their on-going garbage strike will get to know considerably more about skunks, coons & coyotes and the like as the strike drags on and temporary garbage dumps pile up with refuse.
And by the way, skunks odour is not from "piss" ... it's an amber coloured secretion they are able to spray from glands on either side of their anus. The sticky liquid component of the spray can be very well "aimed" by the liittle critters out to about 15 feet or so ... and once they've sprayed once - don't be too brave. They've got repeaters ... capable of 5 or 6 more times. And of course, lastly, ... a bullet to the brain or spine
is no guarantee that there will be no discharge !
I let the little buggers dig-up the June bug larvae (grubs) out of the front lawn. Doing a little daily turf repair for a few weeks is a whole lot cheaper tha having the "weed guy"
apply expensive chemicals.
Never knew a skunk to either spray nor even bother a cat.
On occassion while having "a horn or two" round the fire at camp. I've had a skunk rub-up against my leg just like a cat might. Best policy ... stand still and don't do anything too fast or too loud. They'll wander off with no harm done ! It's also no time to have the family dog come bounding in to join the party !
You might guess I'm a country boy too.
You might be less bothered by skunks & coons, etc. if you fed your cat's earlier in the day and picked-up their food pans well-before dark so there was no excess food left around. Your "problem" with wildlife is self-induced.
And yes, when all else fails, "Tiple S" animal control works too.
( Shoot, Shovel & Shut-up )
I think the Liberals in Toronto with their on-going garbage strike will get to know considerably more about skunks, coons & coyotes and the like as the strike drags on and temporary garbage dumps pile up with refuse.
And by the way, skunks odour is not from "piss" ... it's an amber coloured secretion they are able to spray from glands on either side of their anus. The sticky liquid component of the spray can be very well "aimed" by the liittle critters out to about 15 feet or so ... and once they've sprayed once - don't be too brave. They've got repeaters ... capable of 5 or 6 more times. And of course, lastly, ... a bullet to the brain or spine
is no guarantee that there will be no discharge !
I let the little buggers dig-up the June bug larvae (grubs) out of the front lawn. Doing a little daily turf repair for a few weeks is a whole lot cheaper tha having the "weed guy"
apply expensive chemicals.
Never knew a skunk to either spray nor even bother a cat.
On occassion while having "a horn or two" round the fire at camp. I've had a skunk rub-up against my leg just like a cat might. Best policy ... stand still and don't do anything too fast or too loud. They'll wander off with no harm done ! It's also no time to have the family dog come bounding in to join the party !
When a city dweller has a problem, be it varmints or a leaky toilet, the first thing they do is CALL SOMEONE ELSE TO DEAL WITH IT. This is the fundamental difference in mentality between rural and urban (Lib and Con. if you will). mindsets. One takes care of his/her own problems, the other has SOMEONE ELSE take care of his/her problems.
This is a generalization, but one I'm sure most would agree with.
). mindsets. One takes care of his/her own problems, the other has SOMEONE ELSE take care of his/her problems.This is a generalization, but one I'm sure most would agree with.
TheCoachZed
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Re: skunks
Some of my earliest memories are of my dad blasting skunks off our front lawn with his 12 gauge in rural Nova Scotia. It made quite an impression on my 2,3-year old brain and I've been interested in guns as a direct result of that ever since. I just thought it was the coolest thing in the world that he was shooting skunks!
Some of my earliest memories are of my dad blasting skunks off our front lawn with his 12 gauge in rural Nova Scotia. It made quite an impression on my 2,3-year old brain and I've been interested in guns as a direct result of that ever since. I just thought it was the coolest thing in the world that he was shooting skunks!
I could give a rat's ass for either skunks or Liberals !
You might guess I'm a country boy too.
You might be less bothered by skunks & coons, etc. if you fed your cat's earlier in the day and picked-up their food pans well-before dark so there was no excess food left around. Your "problem" with wildlife is self-induced.
And yes, when all else fails, "Tiple S" animal control works too.
( Shoot, Shovel & Shut-up )
I think the Liberals in Toronto with their on-going garbage strike will get to know considerably more about skunks, coons & coyotes and the like as the strike drags on and temporary garbage dumps pile up with refuse.
And by the way, skunks odour is not from "piss" ... it's an amber coloured secretion they are able to spray from glands on either side of their anus. The sticky liquid component of the spray can be very well "aimed" by the liittle critters out to about 15 feet or so ... and once they've sprayed once - don't be too brave. They've got repeaters ... capable of 5 or 6 more times. And of course, lastly, ... a bullet to the brain or spine
is no guarantee that there will be no discharge !
I let the little buggers dig-up the June bug larvae (grubs) out of the front lawn. Doing a little daily turf repair for a few weeks is a whole lot cheaper tha having the "weed guy"
apply expensive chemicals.
Never knew a skunk to either spray nor even bother a cat.
On occassion while having "a horn or two" round the fire at camp. I've had a skunk rub-up against my leg just like a cat might. Best policy ... stand still and don't do anything too fast or too loud. They'll wander off with no harm done ! It's also no time to have the family dog come bounding in to join the party !
Yes, they don't really bother anything but I've had some bad experiences with rabies here and now shoot them on sight. Coons too. Other than groundhogs and the odd coyote I leave the rest of the animal kingdom alone and enjoy them. I don't hunt or shoot deer, turkeys or anything on my property. There is lots of crown land for that and I figure every animal should have a safe place. But for skunks, coons and hogs it is not here. Liberals either.
beretta boy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Orillia, Ontario
If I was sitting in a lawn chair and a skunk rubbed against my leg, I would be the second man on the moon!!when I landed back on earth.....
Well, maybe I'm a little more relaxed around skunks ... had one (de-scented) as a pet when I was a kid. Trapped him myself ( as well as a few other undesireable older candidates before getting the young one I wanted - and never did get sprayed ) The town vet was very co-operative ... he'd had one as pet too.
Caused quite a sensation walking him down the sidewalk on a leash ... but people relaxed when you picked him up and let them pat him.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Yes, they don't really bother anything but I've had some bad experiences with rabies here and now shoot them on sight. Coons too. Other than groundhogs and the odd coyote I leave the rest of the animal kingdom alone and enjoy them. I don't hunt or shoot deer, turkeys or anything on my property. There is lots of crown land for that and I figure every animal should have a safe place. But for skunks, coons and hogs it is not here. Liberals either.
I like your point of view, and although we have no skunks here, I did live down south at one time so I know all about them. We do have liberals though, and given a choice between the two I'd rather have skunks, rabies and all.
JohnC
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
They know it extremely well ( Chretien as PM has been quoted as not wanting guns because they were "cowboy" - which is an insult in Eastern Canada) and are deliberately setting out to destroy it. Wendy Cukier, the poster gun-ban girl of the lieberals, has stated this many times. Senator Sharon Carstairs has said the same thing. Make no mistake- they are the sworn enemies of private gun owners and what they represent.
True enough. I encountered one in the tack room of our barn that did just that. When I saw him I froze, he sniffed around, rubbed up against my legs and then wandered off.
If you don't mess with a skunk he won't mess with you. Too bad we can't say the same thing about Liberals.
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Sure they know that a few hicks own guns and go hunting, but they wouldn't have even bothered to try if they understood the culture.
