I did my first reloads last week but did notice some binding just as I closed the action. Photo is not the best but I threw some felt marker on the projectile so it would show up better in a photo. I just used OAL according to the Hornady manuel.
Slight binding when closing action.
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What caliber and which rifle
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Did u resize the brass
Sounds like you're not fully sizing the case - ie occaisionally short stroking the press lever.This is a common rookie mistake. Alternatively, using once fired brass from other rifles can cause binding issues at the base of the case - the sizing die cannot resize the dia of the case at the base sufficiently.
Take one of the binding cases and seat the bullet another 1/4 turn, and see if the problem goes away....
1)If it doesn't, then you have a sizing issue. In this circumstance, if the case is a bit tight and the bolt closes with reasonable force, you can shoot the affected rounds.
2) If it does. you have an OAL issue and need to seat the bullets deeper. This may not be a bad idea anyway, those puny 110 gr bullets cant be seated very far into the case ... (Rough rule of thumb - need about 1/4 inch minimum of insertion into the case - otherwise the bullets may be too loose)
Take one of the binding cases and seat the bullet another 1/4 turn, and see if the problem goes away....
1)If it doesn't, then you have a sizing issue. In this circumstance, if the case is a bit tight and the bolt closes with reasonable force, you can shoot the affected rounds.
2) If it does. you have an OAL issue and need to seat the bullets deeper. This may not be a bad idea anyway, those puny 110 gr bullets cant be seated very far into the case ... (Rough rule of thumb - need about 1/4 inch minimum of insertion into the case - otherwise the bullets may be too loose)
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Sorry That doesn't make sense 1 in 4, they should all bind.
1. Try your re-sized empties without a bullet and see if it is a case problem
2. Make sure that the bullets are all seated to the same length
3. Identify if the rub mark is full circumference or partial contact
Based on your response it could be a sizing seating or bullet problem.
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It's not clear from the fuzzy picture but is the scuff on the felt marker "bluing" the same all around or is it only on the one side as it sort of appears in the pic?
If it's all around and even I vote for a hair deeper a seating depth. Or if the pressure needed to seat is light and just barely noticeable then it might be that you're just engaging the lands which is often a plus for accuracy.
If it's all around and even I vote for a hair deeper a seating depth. Or if the pressure needed to seat is light and just barely noticeable then it might be that you're just engaging the lands which is often a plus for accuracy.
My guess is it is the shoulder, either being pulled by the expander button, or being deformed while seating the bullet. I would also guess that the sharpie is rubbing off during chambering and not in the throat or lead.
To check that, could pull the bullets on the ones that won't chamber and see if the empty case still binds.
If the marker is rubbing off in the throat of the chamber could the bullet not be seated square, due to the 110 being very short?
igojuone
Are the cartridges feeding from the magazine when this happens, or are you single feeding into the chamber.
If you do not have a runout gauge, roll one of the problem cartridges on a flat counter top and watch the bullet tip for wobble.
My two guesses are it may be rubbing on something during feeding or your case necks have been pulled of center by the expander.
This is basically the same thing that Cleftwynd said above and Cleftwynd is almost as smart, good looking and modest as I am.
Are the cartridges feeding from the magazine when this happens, or are you single feeding into the chamber.
If you do not have a runout gauge, roll one of the problem cartridges on a flat counter top and watch the bullet tip for wobble.
My two guesses are it may be rubbing on something during feeding or your case necks have been pulled of center by the expander.
This is basically the same thing that Cleftwynd said above and Cleftwynd is almost as smart, good looking and modest as I am.
igojuone
Are the cartridges feeding from the magazine when this happens, or are you single feeding into the chamber.
If you do not have a runout gauge, roll one of the problem cartridges on a flat counter top and watch the bullet tip for wobble.
My two guesses are it may be rubbing on something during feeding or your case necks have been pulled of center by the expander.
This is basically the same thing that Cleftwynd said above and Cleftwynd is almost as smart, good looking and modest as I am.
I am neither modest nor good looking, and I fall quite short of your ability and knowledge in this forum. I do appreciate the compliment though Ed!!
Back to the topic, something is definitely amiss as to why he is having issues. I wouldn't rule it out, but I can't see how runout could cause the binding without it being so obvious he wouldn't have come here for assistance.
Ok here's a couple of more photos. Cycled a few other of same reloads and the binding is noticeable on all the rounds some just more so then others. Hopefully you can see the rub area better in these photos, it's just on the projectile and 1/4 inch or less around the projectile. It happens in the very last bit of forward movement and as I close the bolt.
I think second photo shows it best, it's just the little mark just above the case and runs parallel with the case opening. There is no binding on the case itself. Other round is factory. All the rounds chambered just some a little effort needed to completely close.
It still looks like the shoulder angle is out, or too far forward to me. A thou or two can make all the difference in the world, and I believe I see quite a difference in the shoulders of those two cases. If you were near me I would lend you a Forster datum dial kit.
Have you measured the diameter of the 110's with a micrometer?
Have you measured the diameter of the 110's with a micrometer?
