slugs for grizzly?

i have three inch brennekes golds for the rifeld barrel thy would be the best in my opinion .thy hit vry hard and really hold toghether but thy are not cheap i guess when you are facing a grizz the price of your ammo will not be on your mind DUTCH
 
now if your planning on actually hunting a grizz with a rifled slugger and some sabbots then all the power to you... keep your shots under 150yrd's and make sure you can group around 3-5" at that distance under field conditions... if guys can take grizz with a compound bow i see no reason at all you cant drop a grizz with damn near anything from a 30-30 and up at a reasonable distance.

Good points. Grizzlies have been killed with most anything. The main point of a slug from a shotgun is to stop a grizzly up close, reliably and confidently, in the maximum shtf situation. Lots different from stalking and shooting one unaware of your presence from a distance.

i have three inch brennekes golds for the rifeld barrel thy would be the best in my opinion .thy hit vry hard and really hold toghether but thy are not cheap i guess when you are facing a grizz the price of your ammo will not be on your mind DUTCH

Good point Dutch. Don't go cheap. Most of my Brenneke's ride around in the tube until they are getting old, but I wouldn't trade them if I had the choice. I like the 2 3/4 loads because they are more controllable in my 870 with the 18" barrel, where 3 inchers are slower on the recovery because of the heavier recoil. I like the better chance for a follow up shot or two. At close range I don't think the extra power is a big advantage in a 12 gauge slug, especially an excellent one like the Brenneke.
 
I mostly use 3" Brenneke originals, but these have little advantage over the 23/4" Brenneke loads except that they cut down your magazine capacity by one. I chronographed a variety of 12 slugs and the Brennekes were a bit disappointing only making about 1330 fps if I recall. On the other hand, that makes them much more controllable than some other slug loads, and the slug itself is much stronger than a foster, cuts a full diameter hole and penetrates better despite the higher velocity of slugs like the 3" Federals.

While my .375 was being built I carried the shotgun almost daily, and found that the slugs had to be changed out about 3 times a year. Those on the side saddle and in the speed feed were particularly prone to corrosion. Now I only carry the shotgun when I'm close to town, so the slugs are lasting longer.
 
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chevyman_2000 said:
I disagree with this statement. I use 385 grin 2 3/4" sabot slugs for deer and at 150 yards Clean pass threws and thats even after going threw a 4" tree :)
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Personal experience certainly has strong merit.......but until most Alaskans change there 'bear bullets' from Brennekes to Sabot slugs.....I will follow thier lead.
To each his own......:cool:
 
Patrickshot said:
Hey guys, this is what I woke up to the next morning when we went on a boat trip near Vancouver Island to a secret spot.(middle of nowhere) We were there to surf. The prints were right beside our tent. After the trip I filled out my PAL papers and was looking at shotguns.......


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Wow, those are some mighty big paw prints.
 
I have a dumb question...is brenneke a name brand of slug, or a type? I usually just buy winchester super x 2 3/4 and 3" slugs at cambodian tire to put in my bear gun, and haven't pulled the shells apart to look at how the slugs are made. The slugs are 1 oz of lead with a hollow point and rifling on the sides. I've never had to shoot a bear with one, only executed stumps and hollow trees, I figure any slug will do that. My woman is pathologically afraid of bears and is certain every time my family goes in the bush that there are bears behind every tree waiting to eat her, so I need some reassurance...lol
 
boresnake said:
I have a dumb question...is brenneke a name brand of slug, or a type? I usually just buy winchester super x 2 3/4 and 3" slugs at cambodian tire to put in my bear gun, and haven't pulled the shells apart to look at how the slugs are made. The slugs are 1 oz of lead with a hollow point and rifling on the sides. I've never had to shoot a bear with one, only executed stumps and hollow trees, I figure any slug will do that. My woman is pathologically afraid of bears and is certain every time my family goes in the bush that there are bears behind every tree waiting to eat her, so I need some reassurance...lol
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Brenneke is a brand and a type as no other manufacturer makes what is essentially a semi-wadcutter slug. The first effective shotgun slug was introduced by Wilhelm Brenneke in 1898, and this design remains in use today. The wad remains attached to the slug , and this additional length aids in the stability during flight and penetration. Both Brenneke and foster slugs maintain stability though a nose heavy design. The wads of the earlier Brenneke slugs were held in place with a lag screw, but now the plastic is pressed into a recess in the base of the slug.

Consider the following picture. All of these slugs were recovered from wet sand. A 1 ounce foster slug is at the top (I don't recall if it was a Federal or Winchester but for all practical purposes they are the same) and 3 - 600 gr Brennekes are below. The tendency of the foster slug to loose stability or follow the path of least resistance rather than producing straight line penetration can be understood when viewed with the Brennekes.

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Thanks Boomer.....I personally would have no qualms at all of placing the care of the hairs on my head, and skin on my bones, in the welcome shadow of Brenneke Classic Rotweills of 12 bore diameter. (maybe & I mean maybe Challengers)

Anything else is a 'risky' endevour IMHO.
 
I think that the Buckhammers are for rifled guns. A sabot without the sabot if you know what I mean.

Brennekes are for smoothbore guns.
 
From the Remington site

Specifically designed for rifled barrels and rifled choke tubes, these high-performance slugs are capable of producing 3-inch or better groups at 100-yards with nearly 100% weight retention and controlled expansion to nearly one-inch in diameter.
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