Smallest light weight NR .22lr for a pack rifle?
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Do you have the regular folding one too? Would be cool to see both weighed on the same scale to eliminate as many variables as possible.
I owned both and can say the new takedown is heavier. It’s due to the single beefier arm of the stock, which is heavier than the two thin arms of the original folder. I ended up selling the takedown — new and unfired — as the original was both lighter and faster to deploy. From stowed to shouldered, the original requires about 4 sec. whereas the takedown requires about 12 sec: unscrew canister, assemble halves, lock with dial, unfold buttpad, lock with thumbscrew. No thanks.
Here are pics from my EE ad. I really liked the final form, but didn’t like the steps required to get it there. I wish it simply folded into a compact package without all the fuss. The fact that it also weighed more sealed its fate (for me, YMMV).
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For sure it makes sense that taken down and stored in separate pieces it would take longer to deploy then the OG Little Badger.
As to the size folded, I ended up bending the wire stock on my Little Badger to make it even more compact when folded and also improve the cheek weld for me using the iron sights. In my opinion it should come like that out of the box as it's a win-win.
I've been curious to check out a TDX since they dropped, but I'm not getting rid of my OG Little Badger....
Barret, is the rear stock on the TDX removable?
Suther I will weigh both when I get a chance with a basic luggage scale.
As to the size folded, I ended up bending the wire stock on my Little Badger to make it even more compact when folded and also improve the cheek weld for me using the iron sights. In my opinion it should come like that out of the box as it's a win-win.
I've been curious to check out a TDX since they dropped, but I'm not getting rid of my OG Little Badger....
Barret, is the rear stock on the TDX removable?
Suther I will weigh both when I get a chance with a basic luggage scale.
For sure it makes sense that taken down and stored in separate pieces it would take longer to deploy then the OG Little Badger.
As to the size folded, I ended up bending the wire stock on my Little Badger to make it even more compact when folded and also improve the cheek weld for me using the iron sights. In my opinion it should come like that out of the box as it's a win-win.
I've been curious to check out a TDX since they dropped, but I'm not getting rid of my OG Little Badger....
Barret, is the rear stock on the TDX removable?
Suther I will weigh both when I get a chance with a basic luggage scale.
In hindsight I should have checked it out more thoroughly while it was in my hands, but didn’t, so can’t say.
In fairness I shouldn’t say that the OG folder is better than the TDX — apologies for implying that — instead I should say it’s a matter of the user’s preferences vs trade offs.
A lighter gun (wire stock), quicker to deploy (folding) suits my own needs better, even if it’s less robust.
But the TDX will suit someone else better if they prefer a stronger gun (rod stock) with a better ammo carrying system and the compact floating canister; even if it takes longer to deploy and is a bit heavier.
Totally agree. I never liked that it folded into an awkward triangle and I did the same as you — based on one of your other posts where you mentioned this — thanks for that tip BTW Can-down.
I went a little further and removed the lower wire arm completely, so mine only has a single wire arm across the top. The goal was a stripped-down, compact, secondary game getter that could easily be carried while hunting with a shotgun or full-sized rifle. All in keeping with the minimalist spirit of the original concept.
That said, I don’t think I’d recommend this mod as it caused a lot of headaches, but now that it’s done i’m glad I did it. It lets me carry it in a repurposed archery quiver that makes it quick to access if I come across a grouse.
Edit ... Found the photo - thx. I'd still love a DaverII grip!
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...X-Takedown?p=19430878&viewfull=1#post19430878
The Daver II grips are the bomb for sure, specially the smaller one, transforms the feel of the gun when shooting, reloading and cocking the action.
I might have to get in touch with him and see what he thinks about the TDX options?
To any one thinking of tweaking their wire stocks by bending them down in order to make them more compact and also help with cheek weld, when I did mine I was careful to support the ends of the wire stock where they go into the receiver by clamping it in a vice with some narrow hard wood blocks to protect the metal. I then bent it by hand which didn't require too much effort. It might be possible to bend it with out support but I didn't want to stress the connection where the wire stock enters the receiver..... it's not the strongest gun and I could see doing some damage and possibly ending up with a loose stock if it's done without support.
I might have to get in touch with him and see what he thinks about the TDX options?
To any one thinking of tweaking their wire stocks by bending them down in order to make them more compact and also help with cheek weld, when I did mine I was careful to support the ends of the wire stock where they go into the receiver by clamping it in a vice with some narrow hard wood blocks to protect the metal. I then bent it by hand which didn't require too much effort. It might be possible to bend it with out support but I didn't want to stress the connection where the wire stock enters the receiver..... it's not the strongest gun and I could see doing some damage and possibly ending up with a loose stock if it's done without support.
The problem with a lower arm delete is the single wire is no longer indexed and is free to rotate, same with the buttplate. I used a pistol grip with a compression shim to keep the wire timed, then JB Welded the other end into the buttplate. That bond would likely fail if I twisted it hard. So the price I chose to pay to gain a more lightweight and compact Little Badger is to have a less robust one.
To get the tightest fold possible I filed a shallow channel in the bottom of the pistol grip, trimmed down the break lever tip with a cutoff wheel, then notched out the lower buttplate to accept the barrel tip when folded. Now the fold is limited by the trigger guard, break lever, pistol grip and buttplate simultaneously, in other words it’s as tight as it can practically be. This lets it fit smoothly into an archery quiver which lets me shoulder it fast if I happen upon a grouse.
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To get the tightest fold possible I filed a shallow channel in the bottom of the pistol grip, trimmed down the break lever tip with a cutoff wheel, then notched out the lower buttplate to accept the barrel tip when folded. Now the fold is limited by the trigger guard, break lever, pistol grip and buttplate simultaneously, in other words it’s as tight as it can practically be. This lets it fit smoothly into an archery quiver which lets me shoulder it fast if I happen upon a grouse.
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Surprised no one has mentioned it before, but what about a Cooey Canuck? Easy take-down & even if assembled, it is still shorter than would be hard to carry / pack around.
Nice modification Barrett, that pistol grip looks like it works better with the lower part of the wire stock removed.
The quiver looks nice and lightweight as well, I have a leather tanker style holster that was made for a scoped Ruger MK II and I can slide my badger into it without a red dot, but it's heavier then I'd like and it also doesn't cover the entire length of the barrel like your setup.
The quiver looks nice and lightweight as well, I have a leather tanker style holster that was made for a scoped Ruger MK II and I can slide my badger into it without a red dot, but it's heavier then I'd like and it also doesn't cover the entire length of the barrel like your setup.
Thanks Buck. I had an AR-7 many years ago (Charter Arms, not the Henry) but can’t recall enough of the details to know what might work. But it’s also a cool design as is, out of the box. I do recall the stock was a little on the beefy side to house everything, but the ability to float was a great feature.
Thanks Can-down, yes the quiver is very lightweight, but it’s also stiff-walled which makes getting it in and out pretty smooth.
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The little Scorpio shoots way above its price.
Undervalued little laser beam.
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Unsure if these have been mentioned?
I concur. The Cooey style safety (time approved, reliable) is way better suited for smaller kids than the one on the Rascal. Workman ship on the Crickett is superiour, optics rail and decent sights. The "peep" sights on the Rascal are hideous. It's like looking down a culvert with a little stick ahead of it.
Just made a little 26.5" Ruger 10/22. All my little builds fit my my pack.
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She's a beauty, but not the smallest light weight option and not even suitable for hunting in B.C. unfortunately.
How much does it actually weigh as pictured?
