I don't know if anyone has posted a closer look at this pistol or not, but here are my 2 cents.
First off, you get a nice plastic box with your new plastic pistol.
The box contains; pistol, cable lock, chamber plug, 2 mags, 3 palm swells, and documentation, all in nice standard foam padding.
When you pick it up and hold it for the first time you notice how it does sort of feel like a glock, only with less lateral stability. The grip is a bit slippery and does have the standard plastic pistol 2x4 feel. Going to a larger palm swell only makes it fee more like a piece of lumber. I have medium size hands with long baboon style fingers. I am at the point where I prefer the small palm swell for more control and better pointability. The gun is not a natural pointer as some others are.
The palm swells only slightly fill out the grip of the pistol, but do push it back noticeably, making for a longer trigger reach.
The medium and small swells are very similar. Each is marked inside.
The palm swells are not rubber, but made of the same stuff as the pistol. Perhaps if this thing catches on, Hogue may save us.
The pistol is very slim, and even slimmer than the glock 17 in some respects.
Barely an inch wide.
Pistols need their prostates examined regularly.
Dimensions otherwise are similar to the glock and S&W 3rd gen pistols.
The 3 dot Novak sights are great. The slide stop exists on both sides of the gun, and the mag release is easily swapped to the right hand side. The pistol is very much "Lefty Friendly". The mag release is very generous, much better than the glock.
The image above shows the ambi slide stop as well as the internal workings of the mag release. The yellow lever is for disasembly and can be easily manipulated with a paperclip. This yellow lever allows the pistol to be stripped without having to pull the trigger as with the glock.
The takedown lever looks a lot like that of a sig, and is notched for its neighboring roll pin.
The bottom of the slide is similar to a glock. The nice spring is painted partially blue, is captive, and sits on a steel guide rod.
The barrel and linkage is also pretty close to glock. It does not however have the polygonal rifling of the glock. You can shoot lead bullets, but I am not too sure about warranty coverage.
The Trigger.
The jury is still out on this design. Pins on a trigger. The same type of trigger safety block as the glock, but done in a different way. The trigger is plastic, and has a pin through the middle. Time will tell if it lasts.
It feels solid and you certainly do not feel the trigger as if it is two parts.
This is what surprised me; the trigger is much shorter than I thought it would be. There is a bit of spongy creep, but not much. It is similar to a glock, but not as crisp. The gun is still new and it may get better after it breaks in.
In the image above, the pistol is only being held in position by it's own weight. The pen has only taken up the slack on the trigger and cannot go any further without moving the pistol. It is at this point the trigger pull actually begins, and is only a few mm.
There is a trigger stop molded on both the trigger and back of the trigger guard. S&W lists the trigger at 6.5 lbs. I hope no one coughs up a New York Trigger for these things.
The scale type serrations on the rear of the slide were pretty comfortable.
I do not mind the look of them. You can also see daylight between the slide and frame, much like the glock. Notice the arrow and letter "L". This is where the key would be inserted had the pistol been equipped with the locking option. A built in trigger lock is a nice addition to any gun.
The extractor is much thicker than the 3rd gen smiths.
It is very robust and even is wider at the claw area extending downwards a third again its width.
The bottom of the extractor is actually claw shaped rather than just a hook.
The mags are steel and are not overly tight fitting. They are ejected and inserted easily, and do not rattle in the pistol.
It shoots quite nicely for me. I was able to keep everything in the A zone at 15 yards (60 rounds). Most of which was one fist size hole. The recoil was not much more than a 9 mm in a similar gun, and the brass was ejected about 3 yards over my right shoulder. I intend to use this gun alot, and keep track of the round count and any failures.
This is not a target pistol. It is also not an expensive pistol. It does well for what it was designed for. It is a service pistol.
Only time will tell if it can stand the punishment.
I cannot see it in the swamps, jungles and deserts. It may survive well in an urban environment.
I like this gun.
Just my opinion.
Let me know your opinions on both the gun and thread.
First off, you get a nice plastic box with your new plastic pistol.
The box contains; pistol, cable lock, chamber plug, 2 mags, 3 palm swells, and documentation, all in nice standard foam padding.
When you pick it up and hold it for the first time you notice how it does sort of feel like a glock, only with less lateral stability. The grip is a bit slippery and does have the standard plastic pistol 2x4 feel. Going to a larger palm swell only makes it fee more like a piece of lumber. I have medium size hands with long baboon style fingers. I am at the point where I prefer the small palm swell for more control and better pointability. The gun is not a natural pointer as some others are.
The palm swells only slightly fill out the grip of the pistol, but do push it back noticeably, making for a longer trigger reach.
The medium and small swells are very similar. Each is marked inside.
The palm swells are not rubber, but made of the same stuff as the pistol. Perhaps if this thing catches on, Hogue may save us.
The pistol is very slim, and even slimmer than the glock 17 in some respects.
Barely an inch wide.
Pistols need their prostates examined regularly.
Dimensions otherwise are similar to the glock and S&W 3rd gen pistols.
The 3 dot Novak sights are great. The slide stop exists on both sides of the gun, and the mag release is easily swapped to the right hand side. The pistol is very much "Lefty Friendly". The mag release is very generous, much better than the glock.
The image above shows the ambi slide stop as well as the internal workings of the mag release. The yellow lever is for disasembly and can be easily manipulated with a paperclip. This yellow lever allows the pistol to be stripped without having to pull the trigger as with the glock.
The takedown lever looks a lot like that of a sig, and is notched for its neighboring roll pin.
The bottom of the slide is similar to a glock. The nice spring is painted partially blue, is captive, and sits on a steel guide rod.
The barrel and linkage is also pretty close to glock. It does not however have the polygonal rifling of the glock. You can shoot lead bullets, but I am not too sure about warranty coverage.
The Trigger.
The jury is still out on this design. Pins on a trigger. The same type of trigger safety block as the glock, but done in a different way. The trigger is plastic, and has a pin through the middle. Time will tell if it lasts.
It feels solid and you certainly do not feel the trigger as if it is two parts.
This is what surprised me; the trigger is much shorter than I thought it would be. There is a bit of spongy creep, but not much. It is similar to a glock, but not as crisp. The gun is still new and it may get better after it breaks in.
In the image above, the pistol is only being held in position by it's own weight. The pen has only taken up the slack on the trigger and cannot go any further without moving the pistol. It is at this point the trigger pull actually begins, and is only a few mm.
There is a trigger stop molded on both the trigger and back of the trigger guard. S&W lists the trigger at 6.5 lbs. I hope no one coughs up a New York Trigger for these things.
The scale type serrations on the rear of the slide were pretty comfortable.
I do not mind the look of them. You can also see daylight between the slide and frame, much like the glock. Notice the arrow and letter "L". This is where the key would be inserted had the pistol been equipped with the locking option. A built in trigger lock is a nice addition to any gun.
The extractor is much thicker than the 3rd gen smiths.
It is very robust and even is wider at the claw area extending downwards a third again its width.
The bottom of the extractor is actually claw shaped rather than just a hook.
The mags are steel and are not overly tight fitting. They are ejected and inserted easily, and do not rattle in the pistol.
It shoots quite nicely for me. I was able to keep everything in the A zone at 15 yards (60 rounds). Most of which was one fist size hole. The recoil was not much more than a 9 mm in a similar gun, and the brass was ejected about 3 yards over my right shoulder. I intend to use this gun alot, and keep track of the round count and any failures.
This is not a target pistol. It is also not an expensive pistol. It does well for what it was designed for. It is a service pistol.
Only time will tell if it can stand the punishment.
I cannot see it in the swamps, jungles and deserts. It may survive well in an urban environment.
I like this gun.
Just my opinion.
Let me know your opinions on both the gun and thread.
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