Smith and Wesson M&P my opinion

Goober, you did a fine write up and a very good job on the comparison between the Glock and the M&P. I also liked your inclusion of other S&W autos; S&W autos do not get enough respect. I wish I would take the time to write as comprehensive reports. I am heavy into my Glock 17 now or after reading your assessment I would look at an M&P 9mm. Why a 9mm? I have said it too many times that I am not crazy about the 40 S&W. I see little that the 40 S&W can do that you cannot do with the best 9mm ammunition. Regards, Richard :D
 
capp325 said:
Which itself is a copy of HK VP70...
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A copy, in so much as the VP70 was the first polymer frame.....and that's where it stops. Glock got it right and the VP70 has long been history.
 
G17 said:
A copy, in so much as the VP70 was the first polymer frame.....and that's where it stops.
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No, it doesn't stop with the polymer frame. It continues with the polygonal barrel. And the Double Action Only trigger. As far as innovation is concerned, Glock's contribution lies primarily in the field of marketing, not engineering.
 
capp325 said:
No, it doesn't stop with the polymer frame. It continues with the polygonal barrel. And the Double Action Only trigger. As far as innovation is concerned, Glock's contribution lies primarily in the field of marketing, not engineering.
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Oh snap!!! :dancingbanana:
 
We have had great success with the M&P pistol, and while you could certainly argee it is close in design to the Glock it is not, we had a police armorer examine both pistols in little pieces and comment very much in favour of some of the M&P pistols features, that also being the case Peel Regional Police in Ontario has after extensive testing adopted it as their new service pistol, as a Glock shooter since 1986 I must admit for a certain fondess for the Austrian tupperware, but I have also now been shooting the M&P since April and have been very impressed with how solid it is as a police/military pistol, lets remember it was designed as such and not as a competition pistol but it will serve will in that role if you spend the time training, if the M&P pistol had hit my hands in 1986 first I would be just as impressed with the Glock right now, the pricing on the M&P psitol is also very good with night sights only $799.99 at our store plus tax, and that makes it a major player in the pistol market, my personal pistol had digested over 5000rds of assorted factory ammunition without any issues and granted while that may not be alot for some of our regular sport shooters in their selected pistols, no parts failures have occurred and the only issue we have heard from the policing side is that the front dove tailed sight has been working itself loose on some guns, this is already being addressed by S&W who has alot at stake in this new pistol and even their president is making a full scale assualt on the LE/MIL market with the M&P.
 
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It looks like the barrel is threaded to the breech block on the S&W, ala norinco copy of the SIGs, not one piece like Glock/Sig.
 
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I have a friend that turned me on to this gun. He is a die hard Glock fan and he liked it so much that he bought one.

The guy I bought mine from was in the GTA. Still waiting thought thanks to the fine workers at the Ontario CFO. :mad:

It came with all the stuff mentioned in the fist post but I wanted more mags.
 
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