So it's a brand new Remington 870 Express - and it jams...

Mine was doing the same thing when I put Universal birdshot through it. When i switched to Federal 3 inch magnum buckshot it fed it amazingly. I am going to try and figure out what is wrong this week:( I hope it just needs to be broken in.
 
This is the first time I've heard of cheap shells causing problems.

Mind you I'm not in this forum much.

I've run 4 cases (250 shells in a case) of the cheap federal top gun stuff through my express super mag and haven't seen nary a hiccup.

I hope It's not luck because I have 4 more cases in my garage for next season as well.
 
I don't even know what it feels like to have a feed problem in an 870 express of not. In a way I'm sure it is exciting as I guess it doesn't happen often.
 
My express didn't feed well until I pumped it a couple hundred times and then some a couple rounds through it. The only time I had jams was when I was farting around with dummy rounds.

I however opened mine up, cleaned it real good, used emery cloth on the rough parts and then oiled, cleaned and oiled again. Now she pumps smooth and no jams with dummies anymore. (The dummies are made with the cheap bulk pack ammo too).
 
I don't see why we should expect jams from a $400 shotgun. With the wing master you seem to be paying for shiny bluing and fancy hardwood stock. Myself I don't think I would take a new wing master out into the muck. I would cry if it got scratched or spotted.

Besides, birds can spot that shine a mile off.

Roscoe
 
easy said:
Yeah, but did you feed your 500 any Federal steel base shotshells, or are you just assuming it eats everything.
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if they come in el-cheapo 100 shells for 25bux boxes, i will ;)

they were talking about not using cheap value packs from wally world/crappy tire in the 870's shotguns as "they dont like it". I was just pointing out that my unclean 500a was eating everything cheapo i gave it and asked for more :D ergo, ammo is not the issue here ;)
 
easy said:
Coming on here saying a Mossberg eats everything, well, so do the Police Magnums and Wingmasters if you compare apples to apples.
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I can vouch for that. I've owned both an Express and several Police models. The Police model with eat any ammo and it cycles über slick right out of the box. Oh - and I'm not worried about dragging it through the rough! ;)
 
Wrap a 12 bore bronze brush with fine steel wool. Place the brush on a portion of cleaning rod. Place the cleaning rod in the chuck of your electric hand drill. Put some Flitz or other metal polish on the wire wool covered brush. Place the brush in the chamber of the barrel. (removed from gun) Run drill at medium speed while drinking a cup of coffee. After 10 to 15 minutes check by finger and feel how smoothed and polished the chamber now is. (check the chamber beforehand to have a comparison) Then go to the range and watch how it will shoot ANY 12 bore ammo it is chambered for. I own 12 ,16, 20 and 28 gauge Express 870's. Only the the 12 bore required this treatment. It now works 100%. This will save some money for you also. I will bet you will be able to shoot the "crappy" ammo also.

regards, Darryl
 
Uncle Den said:
Guys, thanks for input...
However I still have a dilema what to do...and here's why:

I bought my 870 Express at LeBaron in November 2008, it was originally 18" cylinder bore, 7 shot extension mag.


Later I bought here on EE 28" barrel for it - new unfired with factory tag and a modified choke included.

[installed it, went on a range got my jams...
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Silly question, when you stick on the 28" pipe, is the barrel seating properly all the way back till the rib touches the reciever?
 
Uncle Den said:
Guys, thanks for input...
However I still have a dilema what to do...and here's why:

I bought my 870 Express at LeBaron in November 2008, it was originally 18" cylinder bore, 7 shot extension mag.

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http://www.remington.com/products/f...model_870_express_synthetic_7-round_specs.asp

Later I bought here on EE 28" barrel for it - new unfired with factory tag and a modified choke included.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=299730&highlight=remington+barrel

installed it, went on a range got my jams...

so dilema is: if I go back to LeBaron and say "hey whassup with my Remmy? :) " - I can see in my magic ball they say - "Remmy we sold you is just fine - deal with the barrel guy"

and if I go to the "barrel guy" and say "hey whassup with my barrel? :)" - guess what?
"... the barrel I sold you is just fine - your Remmy is FU$%#$#ED up... "

so what would experts suggest to the "cheap bustard"(c) :) go to the gunsmith?

anyone knows good one in GTA?

Thanks in advance.
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You may very well get the runaround. There is nothing you can do about that.

Do you have the original barrel? If so, does the problem go away? If so there is your problem.

But the barrel shouldn't have anything to do with this, unless it is the chamber. If that is the case, just follow the advise here to smooth it out. If it is not, just deal with Remington.

AFAIK LeBaron's doesn't service anything they sell. You're always left with the manufacturers warranty. It is probably worth taking it to a smith for the same cost as sending it to Remington and back, but I'm only guessing here.
 
Den, just to clarify, did you shoot both barrels? I think you will find a quick polish will not only solve your problem, but make overall shucking much smoother.

I try to limit my cheap shells to the Remington small game loads from BassPro. They never ever jamb. However my supermag just simply will not extract the cheap canadian tire winchesters. You can actually see the headcase is rounded when you get it out of the chamber.
 
Here is another question, are you still using the 2 shot extension with the longer barrel? Also do you leave the locking nut on the extension or do you take it off?

When I would take the nut and the extension tube off as one piece and then screw it back on I noticed the barrel would have a slight wobble to it like it wasn't seated properly. I took the nut off the extension tube and then put the nut on, noticed it tightened a lot more firmly and there was no wobble. So now I put the nut on and then screw the extension on after that is tight.
 
Ouch... sorry to hear OP.

My Norinco 1897 'Trench' clone eats that Wal-Mart 2 3/4" cheap crap like there is no tomorrow.
 
Uncle Den said:
12 GA, Remington 870 Express, 28 inch barrel. brand new from store, has been cleaned before taken to range...

Got it to the trap range today... from 100 shots - about dozen (12) jams
and it jams this way: - after a shot you simply can not open the action.
if you push sliding grip down with two hand while stock is on the ground - it will open after some joggleing back and force.

worst part it were 2&3/4 shells.
or may be it's a particular shells? they were Federal Field&Range.
may be something needs to broken in?
may be receiver needs more oil/grease?
may be it is a common issue with Remmy 870s' ?
May be some parts need filing/polishing/improvements?
may be I may done something wrong?

anyone had similar problems?

Many thanks to everyone in adance for replies.
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I haven't read the several pages of posts to see if it is covered but this is not limited to the Express models from my experience.

The last three Police Magnums my work purchased had the exact same problem of rough 'sticky' chambers. Two previous brand new Express models had different serious malfunctions right out of the box as well. I notice that the barrels on the Police and Express models are now the same wall thickness, Police models used to be a lot thicker walled.

If I was basing my opinion of 870s on only the last 5 guns purchased I would rate them as a poor product. However I have also used dozens of Remingtons that function flawlessly and eat everything they are fed.

Cheers
 
Uncle Den: Had a similar thing happen to me with the Federal Shells with my Remington 870 Express Super Magnum after it's first brick of 100 Federal Cheapo Target Shells. The issue was that the shells were not extracting out of the chamber and it took 2-3 pumps to extract and eject the shell. This happened approx a dozen times in that first 100 shells. At first glance I assumed that the gun was merely getting hot and the shells were sticking. The next time to the store I bought a brick of Winchester shells for almost the same price. This time I only had 1 or 2 failures to extract/eject. After this session I gave the gun an extra good cleaning and spent a bit more time on the extractor and the face of the bolt and have not had the problem happen again.
 
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