So this happened today - Sako A7
- Thread starter Rudiger
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Pathfinder
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Northeast Ontario
That sucks....I know the new A7 have an improved stock to deal with that issue so Stoeger may help you out on that one.
I looks like you can still use it in the meantime.....just cant adapt any chunks of extra metal to your 6lb rifle anymore
I looks like you can still use it in the meantime.....just cant adapt any chunks of extra metal to your 6lb rifle anymore
INTIMIDATOR
Regular
- Location
- Southern Ontario
sandbags in the field just aren't practical. If it was me I would just fix the old stock and gusset it with epoxy and a metal plate like previously said. Then get a new sling stud that will accept the new dimensions. It will be a lot cheaper than a new stock.
Quality firearms DON'T come with plastic stocks they come with wood. just my 2 cents.
Quality firearms DON'T come with plastic stocks they come with wood. just my 2 cents.
- Location
- St. Paul AB
Depends if the dollar is 100 pennies scattered about or a single coin (or bill).
Just call them up, be nice, explain the situation truthfully (and nicely), and await their verdict. Did I mention it doesn't hurt to be nice to the warranty people? And don't worry about the laughter you hear as you hang up the phone. I'm sure they're not laughing at you.
Same thing happened with a Ramline stock I had, I ended up patching up the hole with an epoxy mixture, re-drilled a hole 1/2" back an re-inforced the back (barrel channel) with a washer and flat piece of stainless steel. This provided more "girth" when tightening the cap screw on my Harris bipod.
I now just "snug" up the screw and don't torque it.
I now just "snug" up the screw and don't torque it.
Repair Plan
I support those who favour repairing the item yourself, for reasons evident in the steps listed below.
Here is how I suggest repairing the gun. Attend the dumpster bins found behind your local Safeway Store. Rummage through the trash until you find a couple of those four-liter milk jugs. Melt the jugs down into a single smoldering blob. Pour the blob into the spot where your sling swivel stud use to be. Wait until the blob cools a bit and then smooth it out with your boot. Stick in the swivel stud. After it completely cools, shake the rifle a couple of times and if the stud doesn’t fall out, you are good to go. From what I have seen, the process described in the above is every bit as good as the construction methods currently used by the SAKO factory itself.
Why go to the time and expense of mailing in your rifle, when you have the ability to match SAKO quality control?
Alternatively, you might sell your SAKO, as is, to someone in love with European chic. You can then use the proceeds to buy a used Winchester Featherweight. Given the outrageous cost of SAKO products, you will likely walk away with a few bucks in your pocket after the exchange. Of course the Winchester will look nowhere near as racy as a SAKO. But on the other hand the Winchester rifle will work.
Watch, SAKO will soon be marketing its wears as “environmentally friendly.” Their rifles biodegrade in the hands of hunters.
I support those who favour repairing the item yourself, for reasons evident in the steps listed below.
Here is how I suggest repairing the gun. Attend the dumpster bins found behind your local Safeway Store. Rummage through the trash until you find a couple of those four-liter milk jugs. Melt the jugs down into a single smoldering blob. Pour the blob into the spot where your sling swivel stud use to be. Wait until the blob cools a bit and then smooth it out with your boot. Stick in the swivel stud. After it completely cools, shake the rifle a couple of times and if the stud doesn’t fall out, you are good to go. From what I have seen, the process described in the above is every bit as good as the construction methods currently used by the SAKO factory itself.
Why go to the time and expense of mailing in your rifle, when you have the ability to match SAKO quality control?
Alternatively, you might sell your SAKO, as is, to someone in love with European chic. You can then use the proceeds to buy a used Winchester Featherweight. Given the outrageous cost of SAKO products, you will likely walk away with a few bucks in your pocket after the exchange. Of course the Winchester will look nowhere near as racy as a SAKO. But on the other hand the Winchester rifle will work.
Watch, SAKO will soon be marketing its wears as “environmentally friendly.” Their rifles biodegrade in the hands of hunters.
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BC Bigbore
CGN frequent flyer
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- BC's Peace Country
Crappy for you, but a lesson to be learned for me. My .223 M700 ADL wears a plastic handle that Remington calls "synthetic". I frequently attach a bipod when I don't feel like packing shooting sticks while calling coyotes. After seeing this I'll ensure I don't over tighten it! I'll let you go now as you have some repair work to do. And be careful you don't drip any melted plastic milk jugs on yourself
Now this gentleman has fine taste in rifles
sir_springer
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- East Kootenays
My two cents, I'd be more than a tad disappointed if that happened to my new rifle.
Hard to believe Sako...or anyone else who makes rifles/stocks for that matter...don't take into account the probability of a bipod being attached to that stud, and design/manufacture accordingly. It's not like Harris bipods have only been around for a couple weeks, eh? Hundreds of thousands of hunters/shooters...myself included...mount bipods to their rifles as a matter of standard equipment, in the same context as slings and scopes.
I'd certainly let Sako or whomever know about this failure. Occurs to me this is the kind of press no manufacturer really needs.
Just sayin'...
Hard to believe Sako...or anyone else who makes rifles/stocks for that matter...don't take into account the probability of a bipod being attached to that stud, and design/manufacture accordingly. It's not like Harris bipods have only been around for a couple weeks, eh? Hundreds of thousands of hunters/shooters...myself included...mount bipods to their rifles as a matter of standard equipment, in the same context as slings and scopes.
I'd certainly let Sako or whomever know about this failure. Occurs to me this is the kind of press no manufacturer really needs.
Just sayin'...
It's called a sling swivel stud for a reason, not a bi-pod mount. These are hunting rifles, not sniper rifles and I think it's safe to say of the millions of rifle hunters out there only a small percentage have not only never used a bi-pod, most probably have no idea what one is.
That does in no way change the fact that the rifle FAILED, and the fact that you and your buddies don't use bipods doesn't mean the rest of the world follows suit. I've also had slings take more pressure than that pod did and I want the sling swivel stud to stay put. For a multitude of reasons. The fact remains that many of us have precious little time and money to hunt whenever we want. Chances at good game is fleeting and missed opportunity because of poor equipment is not easily forgotten. Because of that fact, some of us recommend stuff that works well and guards against such failures and will use nothing less. The other fact remains that getting a rifle in condition to eliminate the possibility of these "surprises" is relatively inexpensive. In addition, most people would be better served with one good rifle as apposed to a dozen sub par plastic pieces of junk.
Anyone who thinks plastic, put on a rifle by any manufacturer, is there to provide something better is fooling themselves.
sir_springer
Regular
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- East Kootenays
Sure is a lot of passionate feelings regarding plastics being used on firearms, eh?
Read an interesting article by Layne Simpson recently in which he recalls the first time he showed up in a hunting camp sporting a synthetic stock on his rifle, some 30 or whatever years ago. Reaction was rather harsh.
Now most rifles, and even a lot of shotguns, equipped as such outsell traditional wood stocks. Why? 'Cause they work, and for a myriad of reasons. And because they work, more and more people lay out their dough for 'em.
That's how the marketplace works, right?
And, of course, the roadside along the way is strewn with the corpses of a lot of new and innovative stuff that didn't work...or even if it worked, it just didn't catch on with enough consumers for a variety of reasons, most of which leave manufacturers scratching their heads.
I read here, and at 24hourcampfire, how some even weigh scope rings, looking for another half ounce to shave off a rifle...as if anyone could tell the difference between a rifle weighing 6 lbs 3 oz and one weighing 6 lbs 4 oz. by tossing it from hand to hand.
But half an ounce here, an ounce there, and it adds up to...ummm...maybe two or three ounces, which as we all know can be deal breaker between buying a Remington or a Winchester or a Sako.
Modern plastics can be pretty amazing stuff. You can even cook stuff in the oven at 550 degrees with some of it. It doesn't rust, it doesn't oxidize, it doesn't weigh much, it's cheap to mold into just about any shape conceivable, and it tends to last in most cases as long as it's need to...and then last another couple million years in a landfill somewhere.
Bottom line, manufacturers do stuff because they perceive a market looking for it. They experiment, they test, and they test market. And for every winning idea, there's generally a scrapheap in the back full of losers...that all cost money just the same.
We're seeing plastic on firearms for two primary reasons, among many: a) it's light weight, and b) it cuts costs.
You do not have to hang around a gun forum for very long to understand two things: a) Less weight is better, and b) cheaper is a whole lot better, bordering on generating spontaneous orgasms!
For all we know, Sako may have attached bipods onto these stocks and thrown hundreds of 'em out of the tenth floor window to see if they'd break...and maybe none did.
And maybe it never even occurred to anyone. "Did you test 'em with bipods?" "No, I thought you did!" "Who buys a rifle to be light as possible and then mounts a big heavy bipod on it anyways???" "Guys who want the lightest rifle/bipod combination possible, that who!!!" "Oh, I never thought of that..."
End of the day, half of marketing is "selling" an idea, and the other half is responding to demand already out there.
Lightweight.
Cheap.
It's what gun owners want...or at least enough of 'em to make manufacturers rush to their drawing boards every day to find/invent something to sell into the market we create.
FWIW.
Read an interesting article by Layne Simpson recently in which he recalls the first time he showed up in a hunting camp sporting a synthetic stock on his rifle, some 30 or whatever years ago. Reaction was rather harsh.
Now most rifles, and even a lot of shotguns, equipped as such outsell traditional wood stocks. Why? 'Cause they work, and for a myriad of reasons. And because they work, more and more people lay out their dough for 'em.
That's how the marketplace works, right?
And, of course, the roadside along the way is strewn with the corpses of a lot of new and innovative stuff that didn't work...or even if it worked, it just didn't catch on with enough consumers for a variety of reasons, most of which leave manufacturers scratching their heads.
I read here, and at 24hourcampfire, how some even weigh scope rings, looking for another half ounce to shave off a rifle...as if anyone could tell the difference between a rifle weighing 6 lbs 3 oz and one weighing 6 lbs 4 oz. by tossing it from hand to hand.
But half an ounce here, an ounce there, and it adds up to...ummm...maybe two or three ounces, which as we all know can be deal breaker between buying a Remington or a Winchester or a Sako.
Modern plastics can be pretty amazing stuff. You can even cook stuff in the oven at 550 degrees with some of it. It doesn't rust, it doesn't oxidize, it doesn't weigh much, it's cheap to mold into just about any shape conceivable, and it tends to last in most cases as long as it's need to...and then last another couple million years in a landfill somewhere.
Bottom line, manufacturers do stuff because they perceive a market looking for it. They experiment, they test, and they test market. And for every winning idea, there's generally a scrapheap in the back full of losers...that all cost money just the same.
We're seeing plastic on firearms for two primary reasons, among many: a) it's light weight, and b) it cuts costs.
You do not have to hang around a gun forum for very long to understand two things: a) Less weight is better, and b) cheaper is a whole lot better, bordering on generating spontaneous orgasms!
For all we know, Sako may have attached bipods onto these stocks and thrown hundreds of 'em out of the tenth floor window to see if they'd break...and maybe none did.
And maybe it never even occurred to anyone. "Did you test 'em with bipods?" "No, I thought you did!" "Who buys a rifle to be light as possible and then mounts a big heavy bipod on it anyways???" "Guys who want the lightest rifle/bipod combination possible, that who!!!" "Oh, I never thought of that..."
End of the day, half of marketing is "selling" an idea, and the other half is responding to demand already out there.
Lightweight.
Cheap.
It's what gun owners want...or at least enough of 'em to make manufacturers rush to their drawing boards every day to find/invent something to sell into the market we create.
FWIW.
Jordan Smith
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Calgary, AB
That's debatable.
I've come across more Winchester rifles that didn't work than any other brand.
Now would you like to debate Ford vs. Chevy for a little while?
Pathfinder
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Northeast Ontario
From what I can tell about the Sako A7 (I own one) is that the stock is meant to be lightweight and nothing else.....mind you they should expect that someone will eventually put a bipod on it sooner or later.
For the Sako bashers: Ill take my Sako A7 to the field any day before any of the winchesters that I Own or have owned in the past.....but I wont' but a bipod on it.
For the Sako bashers: Ill take my Sako A7 to the field any day before any of the winchesters that I Own or have owned in the past.....but I wont' but a bipod on it.
deadeyes40
CGN Regular
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- nova scotia
companies put plastic on the rifles because it is cheap.the cheaper they make them the more profit they make.i will never own a rifle/shotgun with a plastic/composite stock.if they stop making wood stocks then i will make my own.the plastic ones sound like a tin can when bumped,they are colder to hang on to and handle in freezing/cold weather.and stuff like is being discussed in here with the sling stud ripping out never happens on a wood stock.if it was specific a sling stud then there should be warning with gun.DO NOT MOUNT BIPOD ON THIS SLING STUD/RIFLE.how else are you supposed to mount it can not drill the stock and fasten the base plate directly to that hollow piece of crap stock.all the plastic stocks are the same they are hollow or channeled out to lighten them.if the were solid they would weigh more than a light wood one.
