so, what's so great about the 308 Win cartridge?

Despite some of the anti-308ism here, the fact is that it's a very good round.

I consider it to be the K-Car of cartridges. Nothing fancy, but does everything you need it to do efficiently, easily and without extra fanfare. Ammo is easy, brass is easy, loading is easy, tonnes of bullet selection and a huge selection of rifles in every action is available.
 
My heart is still kind of broken at having to sell one of my favorite all-time rifles ever to cross my own hands. It was a Remington 700 semi-custom .308win with a pencil 20" barrel and it was as light as hell. Felt like a toy in my hands, which means it was faster to "wield" than any other gun I've owned. I always felt that it was more than enough for almost everything. The ammo/bullet selection is endless.
Some say it's underpowered, but the .308win has killed everything I've ever shot it at. Including a nice black bear, and a really good bull moose. I still have a pile of .308 ammo I loaded up before I sold the rifle. I still plan on eventually shooting up that ammo by getting another rifle, and this time I'm going to keep the damn thing.
 
TRG-22/ Scout Steyr/ SSG3000/ AR-10/ FNAR/ SA NM M1A/ all have one thing in common and that why they are in my safe, they are 308... JP.:d
 
I"M blessed with having had a very good variety of hi-powered rifles.
I now have 2 308's
One is a Remington model 7 with a 2x7 Leupold on it. [so far 4 moose with it]/
The other is a Winchester modell 88 lever action in 308 Wi. [ with a German SNIPER POST RETICLE.], [no kills yet].
The most important thing about a 308 is accuracy.
I shoot 165 grainers. Accurate as hell, [with little recoil.]
What more can you ask for.
Also very nice to carry.
 
Will people just STOP posting pics of full stock rifles alrighty ...

Every time I see them I can't stop telling myself I need one...

BTW: I hear .308 is getting increasingly difficult to "Round" up. :slap:
 
The 30-06 is one of if not the greatest, the 308 is 6% slower but uses 17% less powder, it can be boring at times but , but one cannot deny it is very efficient accurate and suitable for hunting almost anything that walks, on two or four legs.
 
I have 2 308's in the collection. One is a CZ550 Exclusive Ebony Edition that is quite pretty with its spiral faceted barrel and better grade walnut stock. Shoots quite accurately with the excellent single set trigger. It's a joy to own. Intended use is for fair-weather Deer hunting. ;)

The other one is a stainless synthetic Zastava LKM70. I do a lot of target shooting with this one mostly with inexpensive surplus ammo - an attribute of the 308. I'm working on shooting out the barrel then I have an excuse to convert it to a 358 Winchester. :p

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My 308 Remington will print sub MOA easily, achieves 2500fps plus with a 200 gr high bc bullet and CFE 223 powder and remains supersonic to 1000yds. It will kill any game in Canada out to 400yds with that load. It's cheap to shoot and components are common, I can't ask for more.
 
It's a very practical, useful and versatile round offered in a wide array of action types. In the '80s the .308 got a lot of bad word-of-mouth which puzzled me at the time. A number of customers complained about hunting failures with the round, as well as lots of jams in semi-autos.
I had a lot of Rem. semis in for jamming for a while, and guys with sad stories about lost deer. At first I wrote the lost game tales up as being due to many hunters lack of ability to accurately estimate range; trying to dump a moose across a pond or clear-cut 400 yards wide, thinking it was under 200, that sort of thing.
I was never a fan of the Rem autos, having to replace lots of those tiny extractors each year and handle other problems they should never have had, so didn't worry much about the jamming stories until they became epidemic. Guys were complaining their .308s didn't 'kill as well' as their old 30-30s.
I took boxes of all the then-current commercial .308 ammo brands to the pit with my chronograph and was surprised to find huge variations between published velocities and reality. Many were running a full 200 fps slower than the manufacturers claimed, in both 150 and 180 grain loads. I tried several different bolt rifles with 22 and 24" barrels, got the expected variations due to barrel length but the loads all fell far short of the advertised specs, some down to 30-30 velocities.
Eventually another chap in the trade suggested that thousands of mil. surplus foreign arms had been imported and rechambered in .308 during that period and the ammo manufacturers had quietly dropped the pressure levels in their loads in self-defence, not wanting any part of possible liability claims due to feeble actions. Made sense. They had done the same with things like 7X57 ammo during periods of large surplus imports of that caliber and other similar foreign offerings.

All the semis that came in because they baulked on the undernourished factory loadings of the time functioned fine when treated to ammo hand loaded to published factory specs.
I haven't chrono'd .308 loads in about 25 years, and I presume the modern stuff is back up to spec, but that period of a few years with mild factory loadings did a lot of unjustified damage to the reputation of a fine little round. Every now and then I still hear an old-timer telling someone the .308 won't kill chipmunks. ;-) Nonsense, of course.
 
What's so great? It is inherently accurate, very efficient, and useful for all North American game but the big bears. You can get ammo anywhere, as well. I'd look at a premium 150 gr bullet, like an Accubond or a TTSX with your rig. Even a 130 gr TTSX could be very useful on all game mentioned here. Nothing wrong with it. Save your $$ for other things!
 
What's so great? It is inherently accurate, very efficient, and useful for all North American game but the big bears. You can get ammo anywhere, as well. I'd look at a premium 150 gr bullet, like an Accubond or a TTSX with your rig. Even a 130 gr TTSX could be very useful on all game mentioned here. Nothing wrong with it. Save your $$ for other things!

Absolutely right. And for Deer I should be using a lighter bullet. So many great choices for 308 bullets.
 
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