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Hey, does anyone know much about the CCFR? I'm in Quebec and I heard absolutely nothing from them during the election campaign.

They could be driving around each big city with video vans in a few different languages. With truths and facts about the firearms in Canada.

CCFR Integrity Tour
October 2019.

CCFR went on a cross Canada Integrity tour, stopping at Liberal candidate offices and gun stores across the way in the hopes of having dialogue with politicians and members of the shooting community. With a camera crew in the truck with them to film it. Several stops in Quebec. The most famous would be the Bill Blair interview.

To my knowledge, no news outlet picked it up. Just lots of posts on twitter and youtube and CGN.
And of course thousands of highway drivers.

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Pictures care of RL1. Probably has a thread on CGN somewhere with more pics.
 
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Cssa/ccfr

Yes sorry, I live in acronym hell.

FORD actually came up with a team of experts to reduce the use of acronyms internally for this very reason.

They called the team Ford Acronym Reduction Team, or FART for short.

Yeah, I was just jerking your chain.

Seriously though, it seems these groups spend a lot of time preaching to the choir. I would like to see more petitions, a letter writing campaign, call-ins to jam up the switchboard on parliament hill, maybe even a sit in at someone's parliamentary offices.

Public outreach needs to be grassroots and more visible. That "truth" bus should probably be a food truck, handing out hotdogs before/after sporting events. Hearts and minds. We've got a sport too, and more people get hurt playing hockey, so why pick on us?
 
CCFR Integrity Tour
October 2019.

CCFR went on a cross Canada Integrity tour, stopping at Liberal candidate offices and gun stores across the way in the hopes of having dialogue with politicians and members of the shooting community. With a camera crew in the truck with them to film it. Several stops in Quebec. The most famous would be the Bill Blair interview.

To my knowledge, no news outlet picked it up. Just lots of posts on twitter and youtube and CGN.
And of course thousands of highway drivers.

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Pictures care of RL1. Probably has a thread on CGN somewhere with more pics.

I saw that, very good.

When I was in Florida a little while back, there were boats driving up and down the shore with gigantic TVs for advertising.

Something like that driving around Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Mississauga etc would be nice!
 
When I was in Florida a little while back, there were boats driving up and down the shore with gigantic TVs for advertising.

One of the Orgs rented a giant TV truck. I think it drove around Ottawa. Might have been back during Bill C-71.

The best newspaper ads though were during the Ending-the-long-gun-registry years, by the CSSA, in the Hill Times.
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CCFR Integrity Tour
October 2019.

CCFR went on a cross Canada Integrity tour, stopping at Liberal candidate offices and gun stores across the way in the hopes of having dialogue with politicians and members of the shooting community. With a camera crew in the truck with them to film it. Several stops in Quebec. The most famous would be the Bill Blair interview.

To my knowledge, no news outlet picked it up. Just lots of posts on twitter and youtube and CGN.
And of course thousands of highway drivers.

There is something on CTV's website regarding the integrity tour starting in Ottawa. It does seem to be the only easily google-able story, but considering the number of conservative news outlets that could have picked this up, that's a pretty big media fail.

The RV is also unilingual English, so a pretty big miss in Quebec. An outreach to minority groups with a martial tradition, like the Sikhs, could grow support as well.

That being said, this really is a civil rights issue, fought disingenuously by the Liberals and guided by polling. A good friend of mine likes to remind people that, statistically, way more people die annually in background pools than by firearms. Why not ban pools?

They came for firearms, but I don't shoot, so I said nothing.
They came for freedom of speech, but I don't like debate, so I said nothing.
They came for me and no one said anything.

Seriously though, a government led by a fickle moron that can and will take your property to suit their political agenda should scare everyone and we're doing the public a disservice by not beating that drum.
 
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The RV is also unilingual English, so a pretty big miss in Quebec.

That was mentioned.

They came for firearms, but I don't shoot, so I said nothing.
They came for freedom of speech, but I don't like debate, so I said nothing.
They came for me and no one said anything.

I tried a variation on that a couple weeks back. I wasn't happy with mine. I have it here, but it's awful.

That being said, this really is a civil rights issue, fought disingenuously by the Liberals and guided by polling. A good friend of mine likes to remind people that, statistically, way more people die annually in background pools than by firearms. Why not ban pools?


In the CCFR interview with Blair, what he said was alarming. The it’s a privilege should concern everyone. Large houses, fast cars and anything you own is therefore a privilege and not a right. This should scare the heck out of everyone. The picture Blair was really painting was that of a police state.
-- Epoxy7

"she was unmoved by the fact that the Centers for Disease Control could only identify 21 children under age 15 dying from accidental handgun deaths in 1996. But the hospital had no signs warning parents about 5-gallon water buckets, in which 40 children under the age of 5 drown every year, or about bathtubs, which claim 80 lives. No questions were asked about whether we kept our buckets stored away or our bathroom doors locked."
-- John Lott, http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/rkba/hysteria.htm
 
In the CCFR interview with Blair, what he said was alarming. The it’s a privilege should concern everyone. Large houses, fast cars and anything you own is therefore a privilege and not a right. This should scare the heck out of everyone. The picture Blair was really painting was that of a police state.
-- Epoxy7

"she was unmoved by the fact that the Centers for Disease Control could only identify 21 children under age 15 dying from accidental handgun deaths in 1996. But the hospital had no signs warning parents about 5-gallon water buckets, in which 40 children under the age of 5 drown every year, or about bathtubs, which claim 80 lives. No questions were asked about whether we kept our buckets stored away or our bathroom doors locked."
-- John Lott, http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/rkba/hysteria.htm

Preaching to the choir... Nobody outside the community saw this interview. Heck, I didn't see it, probably because the CCFR has a private Facebook page and only posted it for members.

Maybe we can mainstream this by taking guns out of the story. What if we petition the government to buyback backyard pools? Those are known killers of primarily children, and the Constitution Act, Charter of Rights, etc... don't protect the right to own a pool. They're probably bad for the environment too. You can swim in a public pool, no? There's a lifeguard.

How about 1000$ a pool to fill it with gravel and save a child's life? If we poll with the right question, we can get 70% support easily... Something like "Do you think Canadian home owners should be required to remove a known killer of young children from their property and should be eligible for financial compensation to save a child from a horrible death?"
 
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CCFR Confronts Bill Blair About GUN BANS!
Oct 6 2019, 34 minutes
25,418 views
http://y2u.be/04amdjAqlNY



17.9 million people cast a ballot for the 2019 federal election. (65.95 per cent of eligible voters)

25k views, 2 million gun owners, 17.9 million voters... Practically nobody saw this. We understand, for context, an 85 year old Canadian sports commentator lost his job for some off color remarks and is getting national media coverage in both Canada and the US.
 
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I’m not sure what is going to happen with gun control, but I know come next provincial elections I will be casting my vote for a separatist party.
 
Heard the liberals and the bloc will be working closely together.so any legislation needing to pass will be easy for them including gun control

Seems very unlikely. The NDP, sure, but the Bloc has pledged not to support the government unless it's in the interest of Quebec.

The Bloc also have more to lose, since they need to differentiate themselves from the Liberals in Quebec.
 
I sure hope you are right.

I wouldn't be so sure, however. Still have the Long Gun Reg. in Qc, as well as certain vocal gun control groups.
 
Seems very unlikely. The NDP, sure, but the Bloc has pledged not to support the government unless it's in the interest of Quebec.

The Bloc also have more to lose, since they need to differentiate themselves from the Liberals in Quebec.

Saw a summary in the media recently where "gun control" was conspicuously mentioned as a point of cooperation. wish I'd noted it more carefully because I don't know if it came from the Bloc leader or from the "journalist" to "build expectations".
 
Remember the provincial government in Quebec is conservative (the CAQ). The Bloc has to balance their cooperation in Ottawa with cooperation in Quebec City.
 
if jagmeet doesn't like turdo's plan for pharmacare he already stated his party will vote down the throne speech.
in a blurb on global this morning turdo ran off a quick list of 6 or 7 top priorities and gun control was not among them...… probably means nothing but that was this mornings news on global bc anyways.
 
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