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I had an idea this morning!

What if we did a coordinated banner display on some key bridges in the GTA, Vancouver, Montreal, Ottawa etc.

The banners should be short and sweet and big.

Doctors Malpractice Deaths =
Alcohol =
Tobacco =
Pool Drownings =
Heart Disease =
Gun Homicides =

Hang them from key bridges, rush hour.

500k cars a day on the 401, you want to talk to the people of the GTA, this would be one way.
 
I had an idea this morning!

What if we did a coordinated banner display on some key bridges in the GTA, Vancouver, Montreal, Ottawa etc.

The banners should be short and sweet and big.

Doctors Malpractice Deaths =
Alcohol =
Tobacco =
Pool Drownings =
Heart Disease =
Gun Homicides =

Hang them from key bridges, rush hour.

500k cars a day on the 401, you want to talk to the people of the GTA, this would be one way.

Also put the debt and deficient, as well as how much the ban and confiscation will cost, meanwhile nothing else important is getting done.
 
I had an idea this morning!

What if we did a coordinated banner display on some key bridges in the GTA, Vancouver, Montreal, Ottawa etc.

The banners should be short and sweet and big.

Doctors Malpractice Deaths =
Alcohol =
Tobacco =
Pool Drownings =
Heart Disease =
Gun Homicides =

Hang them from key bridges, rush hour.

500k cars a day on the 401, you want to talk to the people of the GTA, this would be one way.

There's a lot to like in this line of thinking, but I could see the press spinning this in to a demand for a bigger nanny state. I would also note that we can't cause a disturbance on traffic arteries, because it generally pisses people off.

All that means is we need a more nuanced message along with supporting press releases and a clean delivery. Billboards anyone? Try this one -


"Right now, over 1 million Canadians are on a public healthcare wait list for a serious medical procedure. Most will suffer needlessly, many thousands will die. **Frasier Institute

Justin Trudeau wants to spend 100 million tax dollars buying back sporting firearms that have never been used to commit a violent crime in Canada, for 'public safety' reasons. **StatsCan

On what planet does this make sense?"
 
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There's a lot to like in this line of thinking, but I could see the press spinning this in to a demand for a bigger nanny state. I would also note that we can't cause a disturbance on traffic arteries, because it generally pisses people off.

All that means is we need a more nuanced message along with supporting press releases and a clean delivery. Billboards anyone? Try this one -


"Right now, over 1 million Canadians are on a public healthcare wait list for a serious medical procedure. Most will suffer needlessly, many thousands will die. **Frasier Institute

Justin Trudeau wants to spend 100 million tax dollars buying back sporting firearms that have never been used to commit a violent crime in Canada, for 'public safety' reasons. **StatsCan

On what planet does this make sense?"

That is the frustrating part, the lies put out by the Liberals and the Media.


This way we could counter some of the lies.

I thought about the billboards, one problem is $$$$, second, a lot of billboards are owned by CBS? Left media group!
 
That is the frustrating part, the lies put out by the Liberals and the Media.


This way we could counter some of the lies.

I thought about the billboards, one problem is $$$$, second, a lot of billboards are owned by CBS? Left media group!

Honestly, the money probably isn't the biggest issue. Fund raising from 2 million gun owners to pay for a couple of strategic billboards should be manageable. I also doubt CBS cares about the messaging on those billboards, but if we talk about *priorities* and not *guns* and we don't go in as a gun rights group, it should fly.

I was just thinking "Who's going to protect the public from underfunded healthcare, Justin?" Might be better, gives it a left wing spin.
 
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Advertising on the TTC:

The TTC is one of the largest platforms for billboard advertising in Ontario, and PATTISON does a lot of work to help get those advertisements to you when commuting. Along with its subsidiary, PATTISON Onestop, which does the video content on the TTC TV screens, PATTISON and the TTC have a $324 million contact to continue to produce advertisements for commuters. The cost of king posters, which are placed on either side of outdoor moving TTC vehicles, will run around $550 net rate spot buy for 4 weeks in the Toronto core. For streetcar-only advertising, a king poster will be around $1500 net rate spot buy for 4 weeks. To put it simply, a poster on the side of a streetcar will set you back approx. $1250/month. In terms of murals and door decals, PATTISON uses a rate of $18,000 for portraits on streetcars as a 12 week net rate per mural, while door decals on the subway will cost $10,000 for a 4 week net rate per vehicle. Vinyl decals are primarily used on subway doors, and at one rate for 4 weeks it will add up the cost of around $10,000. Standard (35' long) and super (70' long) interior cards are also offered by PATTISON, which are posters placed above the windows on buses and streetcars. Superbus and supertrain advertising is the most profitable form of billboard advertising on the TTC, where they cover transit vehicles on either side, in the back and on the roof, plus on all the interior cards of buses. For full superbus/supertrain coverage, PATTISON rates will be $45,000 for subways on a 12 week net rate per vehicle. All in all, advertising on the TTC is not cheap but very effective in grabbing the attention of commuters in Ontario.
 
The rates are all based on an average scale but, typically, the lowest amount you can spend is anywhere from $300-$800 on a ‘Junior poster’, which is a small billboard that can be around 11’ wide and 5’ high. Anything bigger could cost you anywhere from $900-$5,000. The sizes can range from 22’-50’ wide and 11’-15’ high. Prices will definitely increase or decrease depending on the location of the billboard. Usually, the closer you are to the city the higher the cost. So say you're a business in Guelph, Ontario, your billboard pricing will most likely be lower than that of the downtown Toronto core. These prices also vary due to how long of a period your billboard will be up for. Usually, they are up for a 4-6-week time frame. Digital billboards cost a little bit more and range from $2,500-$8,000 per ad. One of the positives to this is that there is no production cost with a digital billboard. Also, if any changes need to be made to the ad it can be done in minutes. More ads can translate to digital billboards because they usually change every 10 seconds for maximum exposure. Sometimes, there are also daily and weekly rates available. A lot of the billboard advertising companies can offer you quotes and the best available spots for your ad to get the most recognition.
 
When I explain the Liberal plan, and expose it for what it is (another stupid idea with no value), the response I get is oh...that’s not why I heard or read.

Even liberal and bro voters (that are not too far gone) actually agree with everything I say to them.
 
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We need to pool our money and get these graphs on a digital billboard in downtown Toronto!
 
First of all, the scientific consensus is that human activity, mostly the burning of carbon-based fuel, is what creates global warming. But that's not the point here. The point is that with a discourse like what you just posted, it's gonna be harder for the conservatives to pick up voter than it is for a nerd to pick up chicks at a party while speaking klingon.

So, prepare to change your tune or prepare for a 15-20 years long liberal government. Your call.

When you speak of scientific consensus you may want to research the sources from which this sprung, particuallury the 97% oft quoted since it would seem to support that 97% of all scientists involved with climate change research were in the cohort: "Yes, the vast majority of actively publishing climate scientists – 97 percent – agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change."

The seminal papers that put forth the consensus are quoted here: https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/17/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/ NASA, not the Toronto Sun.

and a careful read of one of them yields some interesting facts highlighted in bold:

"Abstract

We analyze the evolution of the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming (AGW) in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, examining 11 944 climate abstracts from 1991–2011 matching the topics 'global climate change' or 'global warming'. We find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW, 32.6% endorsed AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming. Among abstracts expressing a position on AGW, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming. In a second phase of this study, we invited authors to rate their own papers. Compared to abstract ratings, a smaller percentage of self-rated papers expressed no position on AGW (35.5%). Among self-rated papers expressing a position on AGW, 97.2% endorsed the consensus. For both abstract ratings and authors' self-ratings, the percentage of endorsements among papers expressing a position on AGW marginally increased over time. Our analysis indicates that the number of papers rejecting the consensus on AGW is a vanishingly small proportion of the published research."

In summary the key stat is that 2/3 of these papers had no opinion and of the ones that had an opinion and who responded to the survey in the second phase supported AGW but the extent to which humans modify the climate is not specified.

Bit different picture I'd say than the response that we're conditioned to have today of speak the words "climate change" and the mental connection is that we have 12 years to save the Earth from obliteration.

The recent 11,000 signature petition was not vetted for which signatures were backed up by publishing scientists in a field that could make a reasoned judgement about climatology let alone astrophysicists knowledgeable about externalities.

The parallels of propaganda between gun control and climate change guilt run strong. Read "My Big Fat Surprise" about the myth of cholesterol to understand how this is done.
 
I had an idea this morning!

What if we did a coordinated banner display on some key bridges in the GTA, Vancouver, Montreal, Ottawa etc.

The banners should be short and sweet and big.

Doctors Malpractice Deaths =
Alcohol =
Tobacco =
Pool Drownings =
Heart Disease =
Gun Homicides =

Hang them from key bridges, rush hour.

500k cars a day on the 401, you want to talk to the people of the GTA, this would be one way.

Billboards on commuter routes would be a great idea, especially if they give the appearance of fact based.
 
If you're going to spend money on billboard and advertising my vote would to be to market the positives of the firearms industry, the employment, our people, our volunteerism, our activities etc.

Deflection to other concerns and / or trying to diminish the importance of public safety to individuals who don't own guns and who are conditioned to view them in a negative fashion results in them sweeping these tactics aside using the "if it saves one life" meme then mentally switching off.

We have to penetrate that curtain with a message that we are ordinary, contributing citizens who just want to go about our business, then we can deliver the stats to a more attentive audience to prove the point.
 
We need to pool our money and get these graphs on a digital billboard in downtown Toronto!

Tell me, if some organization pushing for a guaranteed annual income (or other freebie) plastered downtown TO with graphs of numbers of people below the poverty line, how much the guaranteed income would raise unfortunates into a better future, graphs representative of great successes with GAC in Sweden, how much your taxes would change to make this great leap .............

Would you stand on a busy street corner for the time that it would take to absorb the information, much of it in terminology unfamiliar to you?
Would it change your mind about GAC?
Would you have time to digest the information while you drive by on the 401?
Why do you think that even a neutral member of the public would care enough to return the favour to us by getting informed?
 
If you're going to spend money on billboard and advertising my vote would to be to market the positives of the firearms industry, the employment, our people, our volunteerism, our activities etc.

Deflection to other concerns and / or trying to diminish the importance of public safety to individuals who don't own guns and who are conditioned to view them in a negative fashion results in them sweeping these tactics aside using the "if it saves one life" meme then mentally switching off.

We have to penetrate that curtain with a message that we are ordinary, contributing citizens who just want to go about our business, then we can deliver the stats to a more attentive audience to prove the point.

I understand, I think 90% could be the content that you are suggesting, and I agree with it.

Look at ducks unlimited, that is a very conscientious group.

Leave the 10% as the fine print with some real hard data, that they are barking up the wrong tree.
 
Just because something seems like a good idea, does t mean it will pan out that way.

Bicycle Helmet Legislation for adults is a prime example.

Injuries and trips to ER increased during that trial.
 
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