So why are none of us Hunters talking about the 30 x 30 Intiative?

Not sure that graph is saying what you’re thinking it does, to be fair. Take a look at the mean of the data set. That graph is some googled argument support from an obscure site, but even on that the mean is increasing in size while the overall number of fires decreases. This is common knowledge, as we get better at preventing accidental human caused ignitions. Fires on the whole are getting bigger, and burning much longer here in the west.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/06/12/canada-record-wildfire-season-statistics/
 
Do you think people who don't understand what anecdotal evidence is can quantify data or evaluate the reliability of a source Ardent?

This thread may be a good way to kill time on stand down or in the retirement home but neither side believes the other is arguing in good faith.

They might be right too, I don't see any minds changing any time soon
 
Not sure that graph is saying what you’re thinking it does, to be fair. Take a look at the mean of the data set. That graph is some googled argument support from an obscure site, but even on that the mean is increasing in size while the overall number of fires decreases. This is common knowledge, as we get better at preventing accidental human caused ignitions. Fires on the whole are getting bigger, and burning much longer here in the west.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/06/12/canada-record-wildfire-season-statistics/

That's weird, because sockboy and the WEF said fires are increasing in frequency and intensity, when in fact, they've been decreasing in both since 1989. That's what the graph shows. So, the mean of what is increasing in size? The mean of the frequency is increasing while the frequency is decreasing? Lol!!.

For the analytically impaired, the chart says right on it, Source: Canadian National Fire database. Obscure site, lol. Yeah, INFOWARS!!! INFOWARS!! Lol.

If it makes you feel better (it really shouldn't) - https://cwfis.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/ha/nfdb
 
Climate Change Believers also made sure to get the Covid Shot so clearly can't think for themselves.
 
The same people bringing you this are also radio silent and complete blackout on this.

https://www.bet365.com/#/AC/B157/C20889217/D1/E90307073/F2/

Interesting who's in 2nd place right now to Olivia chow for the Toronto mayoral race? I wonder if the betting places are a decent indicator of things? Must be a fluke lol. The polls he's obliterated the crowd...when included lol. Keep your eye on how we 'vote' our way out of this, apparently only 1 week to go. Should be fun to see how this Toronto vote goes. Keep connecting those dots folks. Foxes been running the henhouse a loooooong time.
 
As the Kiwi crews here would say, this pool isn’t deep enough for diving.

Keep going, you'll be able to fit a couple elephants in that hole you're digging.

You’ll need more than your superior intelligence and morality to figure this one out rockstar. It’s consciousness (gut) that you have to listen to now, it will guide you more accurately than anything else, that goes for all things in life period, it’s deadly accurate, it’s probably screaming at you right now. Start listening.

You should have let it be but that ego...just can't eh, had to come back and try and show how amazing you are. That horse has to be 20 hands, it's gonna hurt when you fall off that one. It will be right beside the creek no doubt. So close...but so far lol. ;)
 
For those who wisely watch this dumpster fire quietly from the sidelines, and think independently, with regard to why 30x30 matters, and why environmental preservation can’t be left to business and private individuals. This may be a step too deep for the thread, it’s some of what I’d suggest reading instead of whatever source discounts the moon landings and pumps forest fires as government planned.

Purportedly, the hunters here appreciate wildlife and wilderness, something that has never vanished faster in human history. We trend impressively even on geologic timescales for extinctions, as a human lifetime isn’t a flash in the pan. But human history is utterly nothing, in timescales. What we consider normal loss, is leaving one hell of a mark in our narrow band of strata that will remain after our time in the rock. Or, can keep worrying about gender identity politics and what the Fox News reports today.

Cue the “Would’ya look at this here hippy bull####”.

Edward O. Wilson said:
When we destroy ecosystems and extinguish species, we degrade the greatest heritage this planet has to offer and thereby threaten our own existence. Humanity did not descend as angelic beings into this world. Nor are we aliens who colonized earth. We evolved here, one among many species, across millions of years, and exist as one organic miracle linked to others. The natural environment we treat with such unnecessary ignorance and recklessness was our cradle and nursery, our school, and remains our one and only home. To its special conditions we are intimately adapted in every one of the bodily fibers and biochemical transactions that give us life.

That is the essence of environmentalism. It is the guiding principle of those devoted to the health of the planet. But it is not yet a general world view, evidently not yet compelling enough to distract us away from the primal diversions of sport, politics, religion, and private wealth.

The relative indifference to the environment springs, I believe, from deep within human nature. The human brain evidently evolved to commit itself emotionally only to a small piece of geography, a limited band of kinsmen, and two or three generations into the future. To look neither far ahead nor far afield is elemental in a Darwinian sense. We are innately inclined to ignore any distant possibility not yet requiring examination. It is, people say, just good common sense. Why do they think in this short sighted way? The reason is simple: it is a hard wired part of our Paleo-lithic heritage. For hundreds of millennia those who worked for short term gain within a small circle of relatives and friends lived longer and left more offspring- even when their collective striving caused their chiefdoms and empires to crumble around them.
 
In case you've been asleep at the wheel the past few years we have much bigger issues. Time and place.

Gotta deal with those issues before anything else. You're prioritizing the wrong stuff to scapegoat the past 3 years.

Your 30x30 'climate change' hoax isn't what you're trying to say it is. It says so right in its mission statement 'to mitigate climate change' but you can dig deeper and see what it's really all about and it's long term play along with much larger initiatives it's tied together with. The easy button is to realize who its coming from, the same liars that gave us the past 3 years.

Gotta love humanity above all else though, not believe we are the problem, more lies they tell you...we aren't, never have been. Keep gobbling up those lies. There is a problem, you have to actively work hard to not see it at this point, you're going to be like Neo dodging those truth bullets steady, hope you're in good shape, must be exhausting side stepping all this truth crashing down around you constantly.
 
Alright if it isn’t us, which conspiracy explains the loss of the plains bison herds. After that can do the California, Texan, and Mexican Grizzlies. You can stop referencing the last three years, you keep repeating that unanswered for a reason. This isn’t the vaccines discussion, it’s environmental protection.

After the bison and southern grizzlies… we’ve got hundreds more extinctions we can cover. Contiguous habitat matters.

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That's a good thing though, from a WEF climate change perspective, I asked you about that many many posts ago. Bison were just farting and contributing to global warming, so getting rid of them promotes the 30-30 agenda. Cows are next. If the bison weren't wiped out we would have all burned up by now.
 
lol, buffalo farts are bad

somebody was trying to starve somebody out, gosh...so much to learn

there's a lot of critters we've saved on the planet and conservation has never been better in past few generations, turn of the last century was a period of excess and subsequent learning, agenda behind some of that too, and we've been kicking arse and taking names ever since, that was an epic derail though Ardent, that's your superpower

Ardent, this is the liars discussion, the last 3 years slapping you in the face on that and yet you still want to listen to the same liars. 30x30 is not about what you are trying to say is good, and we don't disagree with you that conservation is important or good. But 30x30 is NOT about that, not even a little bit.

We also have plenty of conservation good stories, lots of things would be gone if not for what hunting alone has done for that in past 100 years, never mind all the other things that we have done in general. You're steering off into the ditch again riding that super tall horse for no good reason and way off topic.
 
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Definitely more opportunities out there for hunters than there was a century ago… while we’re in satire mode.

A derail oddly enough means going wildly off subject (30x30 and the implications to hunters), incase you were curious. Like Covid, conspiracy theories, the last three years, and seeing the future.
 
Alright if it isn’t us, which conspiracy explains the loss of the plains bison herds. After that can do the California, Texan, and Mexican Grizzlies. You can stop referencing the last three years, you keep repeating that unanswered for a reason. This isn’t the vaccines discussion, it’s environmental protection.

After the bison and southern grizzlies… we’ve got hundreds more extinctions we can cover. Contiguous habitat matters.

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those images just show how the mankind can be bad ...
 
You guys remember when famous liberal cuck Richard Nixon signed the endangered species act and protected a bunch of habitat by doing so? ####ing commie
 
It's almost as if you guys are suggesting we have a history of, and are perfectly capable of, successfully managing our natural resources effectively without handing over our sovereignty to a globalist tyrant wannabe. Weird. I must be misunderstanding.
 
Ha yea I knew that comment was coming, maybe I can tell the future like Blakey. While we indeed have a history on the environment, it is a dark one, these are drops in the bucket but ones I commend as moving in the right direction, if barely a start. Most that watch American political news as a sort of spectator sport aren’t aware they even happened however.

You have some absurd takes on what an international agreement to protect biodiversity means. Like anyone I argue with, I look at the post history. Yours is a lot of politics, with a large interest in the American right, and tv show reviews, accompanied with a particular interest in acronyms. I’m not making fun of that. I am noting however I don’t expect you spend a lot of time in a year in the wilderness, here or abroad. That tempers my expectations of your personal understanding of the environment.
 
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