So why are none of us Hunters talking about the 30 x 30 Intiative?
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And nothing we do is going to change their desire to reach those levels of consumption. Destroying Canada's economy to be more green in the hope of shaming them into going along is a foolish (and dangerous) notion. - dan
MIG25 you always seem to have a hot take straight from boomer Facebook, I'd love to know your professional background that gives you such expertise in ecology and forest management.
RPF? RpBio? Natural resource management? FLNRO? Walmart greeter?
RPF? RpBio? Natural resource management? FLNRO? Walmart greeter?
Ability to read?
Lol. I guess one shouldn't be watching the SC Finals if one has never played in the NHL, because one would not be qualified to understand the game.
Ardent
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Yea we’re trying actually, kids and outfitting brought it front and center in life but that’s a long talk. Started to write a reply on the points you detail. In the end remembered the crowd we’re in, somebody will say it’s meaningless or twist it, not impressing anyone here and don’t care to.
Again, I’m worried about habitat, and wild spaces. Saw so much of it destroyed in my time looking for the wildest corners of it, wilderness and wildlife. That I feel we can make a difference on. Again, I feel climate change is a runaway train. That doesn’t mean pretend it doesn’t exist.
30x30 is the first initiative I’ve seen that gets all the large actors at the same table to protect wilderness. Many of those in this thread have adopted the “Why try, because China” line. Well China, and many more countries are at the table on this. That’s not something to throw away.
Your analogy makes a lot of sense, many people figure it must be simple as a damn hockey game. A little more may be involved in planet scale environmental considerations and systems oddly enough. Just my thoughts.
Well exactly, which is why sports broadcasts have analysts and colour commentators, often former players, to explain some of the nuance to less familiar viewers. Just like we have scientists with PhD's who do studies, then publish those studies, which people can read. So, the analogy is perfect, and makes the point that you don't have to be an NHL player to understand a hockey game, as you don't have to have a PhD in climatology to understand that the WEF doesn't give a stale dump about the Canadian environment.
Also, you're really big on the straw men, I noticed. I never saw anyone say nothing should be done, for ANY reason, let alone "because China". That's just you making stuff up in your arrogance that anyone who doesn't 100% agree with your viewpoint must be a planet hating knuckle dragger, and rebuttal of a point YOU made must be rooted in hate and ignorance. You're the one who used the "because China" tact, we need to eat less beef, BECAUSE CHINA, we have too many cars, BECAUSE CHINA. Lol. The old flipparooski.
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Right… except some here dismiss all the last century of science and what the PhD’s find as hogwash and misinformation, based on nothing but a gut feel when you get down to it. They listen to the hockey commentators yea, the PhD’s no they’re cons. Don’t get me wrong they think they read, it’s just conspiracy junk pumped out for click bait or notoriety.
From simple observation looking around the world, things aren’t improving for wildlife and the environment on this planet at all. Habitat is shrinking at massive rates, species are disappearing from their former ranges or entirely including in my home province. I’ve seen protections at work that abate that, and hunted and fished them extensively. That photo with the rifle is from within a protected area, across the channel from a clear cut. That’s plain and simple effective progress, and what 30x30 aims to continue, on a global scale.
Go back and read the last couple pages, and note how many posts say we don’t need to worry about what we do and our impact isn’t important, ‘because China’. There’s piles of guys who believe what we do is meaningless because China exists. Well they are at the table on 30x30, which is huge as they have one of the most diverse environments habitat and species wise on the planet.
And in despite of massive wildlife population drops and the loss of wilderness at a record rate, we have hunters rallying against protecting habitat and biodiversity that the studies and PhDs built on them unanimously indicate are desperately needed. It’s madness that perfectly summarizes why our species isn’t likely to see many more millennia of existence.
From simple observation looking around the world, things aren’t improving for wildlife and the environment on this planet at all. Habitat is shrinking at massive rates, species are disappearing from their former ranges or entirely including in my home province. I’ve seen protections at work that abate that, and hunted and fished them extensively. That photo with the rifle is from within a protected area, across the channel from a clear cut. That’s plain and simple effective progress, and what 30x30 aims to continue, on a global scale.
Go back and read the last couple pages, and note how many posts say we don’t need to worry about what we do and our impact isn’t important, ‘because China’. There’s piles of guys who believe what we do is meaningless because China exists. Well they are at the table on 30x30, which is huge as they have one of the most diverse environments habitat and species wise on the planet.
And in despite of massive wildlife population drops and the loss of wilderness at a record rate, we have hunters rallying against protecting habitat and biodiversity that the studies and PhDs built on them unanimously indicate are desperately needed. It’s madness that perfectly summarizes why our species isn’t likely to see many more millennia of existence.
It's Ok, "Wilderness" will be reserved for the Elites flying around in helicopters wearing Rolexes like Jughead while the Proletariat will be in the Cities lined up for Bug Paste, when it is available and they'll be waiting 17 years for their Electric Trabby.
Ardent
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It’s available to anyone who can tie up a pair of boots or paddle a canoe. You’re right as the wilderness gets pushed further and further away by ‘development’, it will become less accessible, and rarer and rarer.
Rolexes are for those buying things to try and find fulfillment, and you’ll find the majority of the Rolex wearers have more in common with your views on the environment and the politics of protecting it than mine.
Ardent
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That… was classic click bait. The same garbage much of this thread is based on sadly.
