SOLD OUT: TYPE 81 LMG Shipment 3.

$50+ taxes for the drum internals. What a joke, I wish I had just never bothered. If it had been advertised as what it is I wouldn't have!

So you will end up paying $250....maybe you have no idea what others have charged in the past.
 
What kind of shipping times are we looking at on T81? Just curious, I imagine TI is swamped with orders.

But also I'm impatient and want my new toy. :p
 
Well TI isn't budging on my drum parts. I guess they'd rather lose a customer than fix the situation. The drum kit will be my last purchase from this bunch of clowns.
 
It's an open forum I will post all I like, I hope you can see the irony in your comment. Saying stuff like that to people who couldn't care less about your opinion is also unnecessary.

You are not the only one frustrated. Every one of the people I talk to is not thrilled. Great way to make customers happy. Kind of like "read the fine print".
 
I’m glad I never got one of the drums and instead got a few more stick mags
I may get a drum later on if they are done up proper from the get go and don’t require buying and installing more parts
 
They do with modification. Murray 3-D has an awesome video that walks you through the process.

Excellent, will check that out. Looking forward to the Type-81 LMG more, hopefully I didn't miss the window when I put the purchase through last week.
 
You are not the only one frustrated. Every one of the people I talk to is not thrilled. Great way to make customers happy. Kind of like "read the fine print".

We offered refunds for anyone that bought a drum and wasn't happy with it, and free kits for those that bought before we updated the website describing how drums were blocked since there was no possible way they could have known. These free kits costed literally 10's of thousands of dollars, not to mention significant man-hours in coordinating replacements from factory, coordinating with each person that wanted one, packing, and sending hundred of packages.

For those that purchased after the website was updated and also didn't want a refund we now offer below-cost subsidized wheels. These are not cheap and we lose money on every one.

Honestly, not sure what more we can do to make people happy? Seriously, what other company in any industry would go to such extremes?
 
They'd be better built with a tried and true design, along with an insane amount of aftermarket support. The type 81 may be twice the cost, but its definitely not twice the gun. There's a good reason as to why the type 81 didn't carry on except in poor countries lead by despots being honey potted by China.

Ak's definitely have better aftermarket support but Type 81's are definitely the better shooter. Significantly less recoil, flatter shooting, more controllable, better pointability/less front heavy. Type 81's didn't roll out till the mid-80's, decades after the AK had already established itself and in an era were new designs were just on the forefront. Caught between two worlds.
 
We offered refunds for anyone that bought a drum and wasn't happy with it, and free kits for those that bought before we updated the website describing how drums were blocked since there was no possible way they could have known. These free kits costed literally 10's of thousands of dollars, not to mention significant man-hours in coordinating replacements from factory, coordinating with each person that wanted one, packing, and sending hundred of packages.

For those that purchased after the website was updated and also didn't want a refund we now offer below-cost subsidized wheels. These are not cheap and we lose money on every one.

Honestly, not sure what more we can do to make people happy? Seriously, what other company in any industry would go to such extremes?

You didn't fix it properly until long after I bought mine. Who was going into the accessories page and reading the change you made? I bought mine from a drop down menu on the rifle page because that was the only way to buy anything since you locked everything out to prioritize rifle buyers.

Eventually you did put it where all could see without searching but that was quite a while. A refund is also BS since you never offered to pay for shipping. Nobody should be taking a hit but you. Anyway I'm done with it now. I ordered and paid despite not feeling I should have to. You won't be seeing any business from me in the future, it's all I can do so it's all that will be done.
 
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Well TI isn't budging on my drum parts. I guess they'd rather lose a customer than fix the situation. The drum kit will be my last purchase from this bunch of clowns.

Client bought drum well after website was updated and refused full refund. Wanted a "special exception" for free drum. Wife was quite rude to our staff on both occasions she called in on his behalf and hung-up both times.
 
Ak's definitely have better aftermarket support but Type 81's are definitely the better shooter. Significantly less recoil, flatter shooting, more controllable, better pointability/less front heavy. Type 81's didn't roll out till the mid-80's, decades after the AK had already established itself and in an era were new designs were just on the forefront. Caught between two worlds.

Hard to say no to owning an AK though if one could. Highly desirable that goes beyond the unattainability of the firearm.
 
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