Soliciting opinions on a new firearm
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260 and 6.5x55 is basically the same performance with factory loads and will work out to 300 yards for moose can't see why it wouldn't work for elk 250-300 yards it's a good round for Wolf to but not so good on coyotes if your selling the fur
I love the 30-30 it fun to shoot and hunt with but is a 100 yards or less fore moose if you can live with that it a good Choice to any choice you make is going to have pros and cons I'm still looking for the perfect rifle in the perfect caliber but haven't fond them yet
Just made a deal for a 50 cal/shotgun Air rifle for deer just to change it up a bit
round ball and air is cheep I wouldn't use it moose or elk but for deer shood be fun
I love the 30-30 it fun to shoot and hunt with but is a 100 yards or less fore moose if you can live with that it a good Choice to any choice you make is going to have pros and cons I'm still looking for the perfect rifle in the perfect caliber but haven't fond them yet
Just made a deal for a 50 cal/shotgun Air rifle for deer just to change it up a bit
round ball and air is cheep I wouldn't use it moose or elk but for deer shood be fun
With your criteria your Sako 260 is a nice choice and tough to do much better. Another one would be a Kimber Montana in 6.5 cred I would try too. For your elk use a tough bullet maybe a GMX or a TTSX and will be handy to 350 yards or so. Moose are wimps I find so your good there, lots have been killed with 303's and 30-30's...
Optics are your call, out west here we like more power but where your at seems like shorter ranges and quicker bush type shots, maybe a swaro 3-9x36? The vx3 2.5-8 also makes a nice lightweight combo. You have extra money so maybe the smaller nightforce? Think its a 2.5-10 maybe.
I share your non 270 camp as well, I use 6.5 and 7 mostly and have put a couple shots through an elk at over 250yds with a 260/120tsx and also a 6.5RM/130 Swift S2 and no complaints. Although if I was travelling most of the way across Canada for a hunt I might want a bit more power, could always buy cheap 300mag, like a 700sps maybe and sell it after your done.
I like reading these type threads and seeing them derailed and dudes recommending what they have or what the OP doesn't want, comical.
Optics are your call, out west here we like more power but where your at seems like shorter ranges and quicker bush type shots, maybe a swaro 3-9x36? The vx3 2.5-8 also makes a nice lightweight combo. You have extra money so maybe the smaller nightforce? Think its a 2.5-10 maybe.
I share your non 270 camp as well, I use 6.5 and 7 mostly and have put a couple shots through an elk at over 250yds with a 260/120tsx and also a 6.5RM/130 Swift S2 and no complaints. Although if I was travelling most of the way across Canada for a hunt I might want a bit more power, could always buy cheap 300mag, like a 700sps maybe and sell it after your done.
I like reading these type threads and seeing them derailed and dudes recommending what they have or what the OP doesn't want, comical.
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Well...he asked for opinions, and got a bunch. Without going back and re-reading the entire steaming pile, I think it's safe to say that most of them suggested he re-think his choice. When he did, he came up with "a cheap .30-30" as the choice for elk. Lots of .30-cal guns were recommended, but I don't think anyone even mentioned a .30-30 until the OP did, almost a hundred posts into the thread.
Woah.....a 6.5x55 is ok for Elk?????
I am going to have to have a look see through these 2.5xor 2xwhatever....seems lots of people like them....I am kind of dubious how it would perform in the thick stufff...but will give it some consideration.
I am going to have to have a look see through these 2.5xor 2xwhatever....seems lots of people like them....I am kind of dubious how it would perform in the thick stufff...but will give it some consideration.
Not sure if you are serious or if there is a touch of sarcasm here... However, if the Swede is on your list for consideration for a 6.5 caliber, it is not a bad one. And of course it will handle an elk shot at a reasonable distance. It shares some advantages with the 6.5x284 Norma. That advantage is that the case is shorter, but it uses a long action. This clears the way for using the very long 140 grain bullets that perform the best. There are two disadvantages of the Swede that should be considered though. The case capacity is 57 grains compared to the 66 grains for the 6.5 Norma. And the other one is that in military configuration this cartridge was approved to a very low pressure -- as little as 51,000 psi. However, when you put it in a modern gun like a Remington 700, there is no reason it can't handle 60,000 psi or a bit more. The problem is finding loading data, that will use that higher pressure. Many guides due to liability issues will not exceed the limits for the old military guns. In any case here is an article that explains it.
In short. It is a good choice providing it is in a new modern action, but I would still pick the Norma over the Swede.
6.5x284 Norma is a long action....maybe I should be looking at 6.5 Creedmoor...I see there are some factory offerings in higher end rifles....
And also I have had second thoughts on the .30 cal minimum.....30-30 is probably not the right choice...I have an SKS already, so maybe won't sell it and use it in case my 6.5 gun poops the bed on the Elk hunt
Aaaaaaaannnndddd....now we're discussing an SKS for an elk rifle...of course, it's just a back-up to a higher-end factory rifle in another chambering that nobody has suggested. Right.
Just get a smith to rechamber your SKS into 6.5somethingorother and call it good.
Just get a smith to rechamber your SKS into 6.5somethingorother and call it good.
I am not sure that I like your tone!
The bullet you want to shoot if you are targeting deer, moose, and elk is 140 grains. It is the same bullet in all the 6.5 mm cases, and it is the same length - LONG. You need that extra length so the case has lots of room for powder. The 1/2" you will add to use a long action will be the best 1/2" you invest in.
Because CGN..... that's why......
Here is my take.......
The Sks isn't a hunting rifle, never was, never will be.....
The 30-30 is range limited when talking whitetail..... how someone would think of it as a potential elk rifle is beyond me......
If you want a "Do all" rifle in southern ontario, get a friggen' 270...... I prefer tailored rifles but I can't logically argue that a .270 won't do the job from coyote to elk as that would be nonsense.....
A 6.5 swede used within its limits on elk would make the 30-30 look like Hillary Clinton on Election Day....... give your head a shake....
"Moral opposition" against the .270 is reserved for people that don't think a "cheap 30-30" is an elk rifle.... or are willing to buy tailored rifles for their choice of game..... OP, get over yourself...you totally jumped the shark on that assessment........
Hizz tone izz good'in.
Butttttt, he hazz a face only ah mammah could luv......................
