*solved* scope mounts for Husky 648

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Decided to scope my Husqvarna 648, but my requirements are a bit strenuous and I need some advice.

Here it is, made in 1953 and all original.

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Initially I was going to keep it an open sight rifle but the lack of stripper clip guide is... well, I like loading via stripper clips.

I am wanting to keep the sights intact and looking to use a QD scope mount that allows the sights to be accessible when you take it off. The only mounts that fit my requirements are German double claw mounts; which are expensive and quite hard to find.

Like this
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Anything else on the market?

Edit: Solved!

Jeager side rail mount

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Now to find one
 
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Well, to put a claw mount on your rifle in Canada, you will likely have to spend equal or even more than the cost of the rifle.
Or you can also go with a sidemount, but again, the amount you will have to spend for a good one is about the price of the rifle or more...

You can also try the Weaver Grand Slam (#S45 and S46) bases on it, it may clear the sights. They are all steel and can be slightly grooved on a milling to improve clearance.
 
I've been trying to figure out something similar for my Huskys since I realize I can't see my (factory) sights over my Control bases. I can see the sights over weaver bases. I am trying out an older set of Weaver Pivot mounts currently. They show potential. They suit the vintage look of my rifle as well, at least in my eyes. I normally don't go for Weaver rings but somehow these Pivot mounts look a little nicer. A potential problem is the objective bell of the scope interfering with the factory rear sight. As you can see in the photo, there is no room for the sight ramp :( In order to use these rings I must change the scope, or install a peep on the weaver base. Good luck, I think the easy, affordable answer may be elusive! I hope you find something that works.

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I'm looking for the vintage look as well. Thought about Weavers as a last resort. Although I would like to go European. Still looking for a Kahles Helia 15 or similar (I like the European reticles #4 and #16)
 
SIGP2101 said:
For your set of requirements you have only two options.
Claw Mount or Pivot Mount = expensive
Or see through like these: http://www.tradeexcanada.com/content/see-thru-millett-rings-m96-mauser--
cheap but not vintage look.

Either way you will need high mounts and rings to be able to clear that Mauser safety.
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I got a Buehler safety so height is a non issue (when I feel like spending the money I will buy aWinchester M70 style safety shroud)

And I'm not a fan of see-through mounts. The purpose of removing the scope is not for emergency situations, but for easy multi-role adaptability. Around here there are both open fields and bush to deal with while hunting. In the open, scope on. In the bush, scope off.

It looking like claw mounts are my top option... Pivots are too high and block the sights. The Weavers are a close second.
 
These keep zero pretty well. And to my POV, it's much better than a pivot mount - and looks great.

http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/Gun_Services/item_info-print.asp?Brand_id=4174
 
BeaverMeat said:
It looking like claw mounts are my top option... Pivots are too high and block the sights. The Weavers are a close second.
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Properly installed claw bases may/will also interfere with your sights. Earlier pic you provided is classic example of how not to instal front claw.
Proper set ups:
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Correct procedure calls for removing bluing from the rings = refinishing. After hand fitting parts need to be hardened to the specs.
It will cost you a fortune if you manage to find 'know how to' guy. If you still decide to go this route i strongly suggest going with contra claw mount which gives you ability to go with different scopes.
 
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BeaverMeat said:
Decided to scope my Husqvarna 648, but my requirements are a bit strenuous and I need some advice.

Here it is, made in 1953 and all original.

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That is simply GORGEOUS. What calibre? They really don't make 'em like that anymore. I have a Model 46A in 9.3.x 57 (made in 1942) which is nearly as nice but not quite. It came with a side mount but I sold it (!!) to a fellow CGN'er because it set the scope too high (the European "cheek-off-the-stock" hold.) As Baribal mentioned, New England Custom Gun has the fancy German mounts but they're very pricey. I'm thinking of fitting NEGC's adjustable front sight to mine as the rear is fixed but haven't got around to figuring out a scope mount. Mine has the stripper clip slot but I may just put Weaver bases on it.
 
Jisquin,

It's a late 640 which uses the same stock as the 1640 Std (european model). The side mount you had on the 46A probably was the same thing as the scope mount used on the M/41 sniper rifle.
 
Baribal said:
Jisquin,

It's a late 640 which uses the same stock as the 1640 Std (european model). The side mount you had on the 46A probably was the same thing as the scope mount used on the M/41 sniper rifle.
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Here's mine: (pic from the seller in 2007. with scope mount)
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and the mount:


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:) Stuart
 
Dang. Claw mount is out. Way too much work and money to do it properly. Rail mounts look good, but too high.

Looks like Weavers are the way to go cost effectively. Now I need to find the right scope with a reticle I like.

Other option is a Buehler Micro-Dial I have laying around with a low power variable scope. Was offered a Kahles Helia 15 S2, but the reticle was a fine crosshair. Dang... because I do like my vintage European optics. My Kahles 39 S2 is damn sweet, just have nothing to mount it on. Lol
 
Hi Stuart,
Looks more like some kind of German mount, maybe EAW. The original sniper mount have only one lever. Still a nice set-up, though.

Well, the Weaver mounts don't look vintage, but in fact, they are. As I said before, I do prefer the streamlined Grand Slam (all steel) over the cheap extruded aluminium ones.
 
cosmic said:
Or get a NECG peep site that mounts on a Weaver base.
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I believe someone (Talley?) used to make a peep sight that fit in a Weaver base. As I recall they were only for the Rem 700, but it might be possible to mill/adapt. Brockman is another name that comes to mind. And if money is no object, there is the gorgeous Golmatic aperture sight that mounts in the back of a Mauser bolt. (http://www.prechtl-waffen.de/Prechtl/de/Fotogalerie/ Scroll down to "Bild 9") :) Stuart
 
josquin said:
That is simply GORGEOUS. What calibre? They really don't make 'em like that anymore. I have a Model 46A in 9.3.x 57 (made in 1942) which is nearly as nice but not quite. It came with a side mount but I sold it (!!) to a fellow CGN'er because it set the scope too high (the European "cheek-off-the-stock" hold.) As Baribal mentioned, New England Custom Gun has the fancy German mounts but they're very pricey. I'm thinking of fitting NEGC's adjustable front sight to mine as the rear is fixed but haven't got around to figuring out a scope mount. Mine has the stripper clip slot but I may just put Weaver bases on it.
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It's a 648 (8x57 8mm Mauser) with a FN action. I managed to nab it from trade-ex, but the 8x57 rifles are slow movers anyway. The stock is a bit dry and needs some rejuvenation but is damn near flawless. No crack behind the tang, thinking of adding cross bolts to make sure it doesn't crack. Really liking the schnabel stock as I'm used to Mausers in full military dress. I am rather proud of it because it has the standard 9.5:1 rifling so it will reign supreme with 220 grain bullets. Most early 1950s Huskys seem to have a 10.5:1 twist with equal width lands and grooves.

All I need is a 1646 (6.5x55), 4100 (7x57), and something in 9.3x62 with a stripper clip guide, preferably a 246 with a Norma peep sight.
 
I meant to complement you on your 8x57, sure looks good, nice it has the sight hood too. I hope there is one in my future! Here are some (expensive) quick release rings I've eyed up a few times. I think they are made in Canada? Near Manufacturing? Maybe I am wrong. I was not able to get a link to work, they are on ebay. Anyway, the bases look too high to see your sights over. As for adding cross bolts, I personally think it is a good idea. I've done two of my Husqvarnas with .250" brass rod. Might be too gaudy a look for some, but it is what I had kicking around. I am not entirely sure yet that I like it myself! But my most recent one (a 7x57) I put internal bolts in.
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Damn that's a nice looking gun. Always liked the clean looks of a Husqvarna. If the rods have a purpose it wouldn't bother me too much.

Considered those mounts before... Look to be EAW or Recknagel clone hybrids.
 
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