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Hi,

I'd like to get a Range Finder for the range to learn tactical shooting and learn how to use a ballistic table.

I'm looking at a Bushnell sport 450...It's cheap and I wanna know if I'm gonna throw it in the garbage after a week or if it is gonna work just fine?

This model is around 130$ + tx

Something better in mind?

What are you using?

Thanks
 
well how far are you planning on ranging. I find you can take the advertized range and half it for actual ranging distance. I have a bushnell 850 and the farthest I have ranged a deer is about 450 yards. The bushnell 450 would probably be good out to about 250 or so on non reflective targets. And like anything, you get what you pay for.
 
G7. If I could have just started there it would have saved me buying six on my way up the ladder. For considerably less money, but more than enough performance for most people the Swarovski Lazer guide is a pretty good unit.

Most of the inexpensive ones are quite good and reliable at the ranges where you don't need a rangefinder.
 
Lieca 1200 CRF here. Works really good as long as their is no downrange foliage and even ice fog can deceive the most expensive laser range finder.
Sometimes it would be really nice to have an attachment point for a tripod, for static range use. Otherwise it's pretty darn good IMO.

I beat the heavy brush a lot in my local hunting forays, hence I replaced the tiny, fragile neck strap, with a heavy duty nylon braided necklace cord make for multiple duck calls.
 
if you get a hold of an old army training manual, you can learn how to judge distance with your front sight- you use the post as a stadia rod- ie on the old 303 if the man was the same height as the front sight , he was 600 yards out.
 
Military ranging is well and good if the hunter is using a rifle with considerable power.

However if you are using a tool of harvest with a much shorter effective range; IE-archery equipment or a shotgun for big game, knowing the precise distance to your target is vital to the ethical hunter.

This may be laid out with range tape beforehand or your hand held optical device.
 
I have a coincidence range finder ( made before lasers) that I use once in a great while- also called an optical tapemeasure- it ranges up to two miles, but the error at that range is anout 20 %- real actual accurate is about 1000 yards- if you don't know what that is , look up a ww2 gun emplacement- you'll see a guy wearing a long tube in front of his eyes- that's the range finder.
 
Does someone know if a white paper target is a reflective surface for a rangefinder?

Yep, to a point. Ambient lighting, dull or bright or dim, will affect if your rangefinder can "see" it. I have a Bushnell 1000. It's supposed to be able to range find objects up to 1000 yards. Yet it rarely gets objects beyond 500 yards. Lighting has to be near perfect, the object very large and bright, and nothing must be in the view in front of the object. ...In other words, to get readings that far...things need to be big, bright, and the lighting must be good. That hardly happens in the real world.

Range finder manufacturers, with the exception of ones worth thousands of dollars, are a little bit like car manufacturers relating their "actual gas mileage figures". Yeah, right.
 
Nice to hear that I am not the only one who does this. +1 on the Leica - good but pricy!

+1 on the Leica. I have the 1200 LRF which is pretty compact. The glass is just clear enough that I use it instead of my binos
 
Quite a few years back I read a well written article derived from a gentleman in the GTA who was an optics/instrument (?) engineer regarding the recently increasingly popular industrial use of lasers for road repair survey. A few things stick out in my mind. The better quality lasers have a narrower beam, as the laser beam starts out very narrow, but increases in diameter in direct relation to the greater distances. The narrower beam is much preferred as the reflective reading is less apt to be disturbed by a messy atmosphere (dust, rain, snow, airborne debris) and resulting with a more accurate distance reading. Which can reach further too. Please excuse my layman terminology folks.
I gave this opinion at an airshow weapons public display for the CF-188 Hornet and the big eared AVS geek across the table had the nerve to interrupt saying, "that's classified information" :rolleyes:

I digress, the more expensive lasers will always have a narrower beam because of better quality emitters from the get-go, hence greater range and usefulness.

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i got the Bushnell Trophy XLT from Wal-Mart...Paid $239.00 mounted on a mosin nagant....its a 6-18....i gotta tell you, great bang for the buck!
 
i got the Bushnell Trophy XLT from Wal-Mart...Paid $239.00 mounted on a mosin nagant....its a 6-18....i gotta tell you, great bang for the buck!

Good on ya! Now. Do y'a have anything to add about the actual topic, rangefinders, or did you just have a spasgasm over the mention of "Bushnell"?

For the OP, how's your own eyesight? Do you get seasick?

My eyesight kinda sucks, but I have my glasses pretty finely tuned to give me really good vision. I looked through a Bushnell rangefinder and near chucked when I panned sideways across the area I was looking at. The world moved like a really bad tequila hangover!
Save your money, buy a used Leica when one pops up on the EE for around 250. Your eyes will thank you for it. Mine cost me that, and I have ranged trees at repeated 935 yards with it, pretty good for a supposed 800 yard rangefinder. Doubt I could hold it on a deer long enough to range it at half that distance, but...

Not all Bushnell stuff is total crap, they throw out the odd bit of glass that punches over it's price grade, but mostly, if it comes cheap, there is a reason...And it's pretty much just better compared to the rest of it's price range. Pretty sure they stopped actually making anything they sell with their name on it, back about the same time Bausch and Lomb cut them loose, or they cut loose B&L, so, whoever they buy the stuff from, some of them have better low priced goods than others...But that isn't, generally, talking about rangefinders...

Cheers
Trev
 
Ive been looking for a rangefinder for a long time. Ive never been impressed with the junk on the market which usually doesn't reach past 500m. arguably, ranges which you don't need a RF for. I was looking for alternatives which had me looking at leica, vectronix and newcon optics. I finally settled on one for now:
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Leica crf 1600 b
they run for around $800-850. Considering the other stuff on the market, this is pretty reasonable. But since this is 2014, i was hoping it had more of the basic features such as if it comes up with a double return and it should clearly say on it the band sizes since the manual doesn't say. From what I read on the web it's something like 0.5x2.5 milrads. (so .5 vertical and 2.5 horizontal (i hope)). It would be nice to know the exact reticule dimensions to so you can know exactly where in the lasing square the beam is going. I guess I'll have to do some math, print out a little diagram with the band data and tape it to the side.

This thing is fairly small and compact. There's a .308 snap cap there for reference. The whole unit is smaller than my cellphone. One other thing that would have been nice would have been a rubber or similar objective lens cover to reduce scratching. The store model had smudges all over it, and after the first outing so did mine.

The 7 power optic is fairly good. I assume this is European glass if it's a german company and made in portugal. Glass qualities have pretty much 2 tiers: excellent, and the rest. I'm not sure this qualifies as excellent, but it's extremely close. There is blurring around the outside edges of the lens close to the tube, but I didn't really play with the focus too much, since it seems really stiff and fragile around the eye piece. Probably just my eyes.

I went out in the snow, which is usually difficult for RFs to pick up. Which it showed since I had to re-lase many times. but it went out to 1500 meters and everything in between. I hope it goes further in the summer, but for now, that's good enough. I lased everything free hand, so a little tripod would probably enhance results significantly.

The angle button is great to have.

The temp reading was way off since it was around my neck, thus probably isn't very useful. I am unsure of if the ballistic program uses the temperature or not. If it does, then your drop data might be way off. It will take much more testing to see how good it is, but i don't hold much out for it. They should probably have had different buttons for the ballistic program.

Until December 31, you can get a surefire flashlight if you send in the sheet for it. I assume WSS where I bought it was a legit dealer, so hopefully this will end up being a good deal.

Final thoughts, Good deal. Unless you can find a RF that goes to 2k for under 800, there really is no other option.
 
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