Spas 12

Definitely prohibited.

Since we're on the topic, is it possible to port the stock to another weapon (legally)? Or have a stock made that looks like it? Or would that count as a "variant"?

E: You do realize you could probably rig up, say, an 870p to look like the FN without too much dificulty right?
 
BBq_Woa! said:
a stock change making one gun a variant of another?

of course not.
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Wouldn't want to make my gun look too SCARY and then have all shotguns prohibited or something. :D

But I was more interested in the "is it technically possible" than is it "legally possible". Would it even look that good on say, an 870?

I wonder...

E: Actually, I was thinking about it. What if someone went out of their way to customize their shotgun to look as close to a SPAS-12 as possible. That would definitely make people pretty antsy about it. Look at what happened with that german MP5-ish weapon. Doesn't even chamber the same round, it just looks similar and now it's prohibited. Where do you draw the line? Is it the stock? is it the furniture? Is it the round it chambers? When does it cross the line from "not a lookalike" to "is a lookalike". See what I'm getting at?
 
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looks have nothing, and everything to do with it...

Here what looks have to do with it - Once upon a time when the lieberals were drawing up plans for C68, Windy Cookies went through a gun digest and circled all of the pictures of guns that looked "mean", "scary" or "bad". Seeing as the libs were totally pandering to her lobby they used this list to specifically ban a number of firearms by name.

Here's how looks have nothing to do with it - When a firearms is banned as "firearms and varients" there is some room for interpretation. Usually the decision of what is and is not a varient is made by an RCMP arms tech at the time the particular model is first imported. So, because of this you can have an M14, converted auto and a Norinco M305, which are (for all intents and purposes) identical rifles. The M14 is prohib, while the M305 isn't even restricted.

There are also those OICs that ban a firearm and a list of named varients. The AK-47 is probably the best example, as this particular prohibition order includes AK47s, some Valmets, Saiga shotguns, Dragunov SVD (has virtually nothing to do with the AK design) , Tigr, and that fugly squires bingham .22 calibre AK wannabe. Oddly, the prohibition doesn't include the Valmet Hunter M78, an SKS-D with an AK dressup kit and so on.

Anyone, feel free to jump in and correct me.
 
I thought they were not only banned but confiscated. My bro PUREVIL has one in the states (he is a citizen and lives there). Ask him what they are like.

I also heard there was a major safety flaw and it have unintended discharges that caused bad things
 
There are about a dozen still in Canada but they belong to museums and LEO agencies.:rolleyes:

Former Prohibited Weapons Order No. 11
The firearm of the design commonly known as the Franchi SPAS-12 shotgun, and any variant or modified version of it, including the Franchi LAW 12 shotgun.

They're heavy and a PITA to load but American unloading is very fast. Imagine 9 x 12ga 2 3/4" "OO" 9 pellet shells firing in 3.5 secs. That's the equivalent of three 30rd (loaded to 28) mags without having to do the mag changes.
 
Glen Valour said:
They're heavy and a PITA to load but American unloading is very fast. Imagine 9 x 12ga 2 3/4" "OO" 9 pellet shells firing in 3.5 secs. That's the equivalent of three 30rd (loaded to 28) mags without having to do the mag changes.
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Now imagine a Winchester SX series of semi-auto shotguns that (if Canadian Law allowed) can shoot 12 2-3/4" shells in around 1.44 seconds... unloads 5 rounds (the max) pretty quick. :50cal:
 
The few times that I shot a friend's SPAS 12 (back in the late 80s or early 90s) I found it to be an awkward and heavy gun. I really couldn't understand the appeal, except for the fact that you could switch between pump and semi-auto. But for the cost of a SPAS, you could almost buy a nice semi and an 870...
 
Assyrian said:
You're not 12 are you??
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Plays alot of videogames I presume, which is ok.
I just find Gamers have this infatuation with the Fugly SPAS... to be honest I cant stand the damn thing. I would rather own a Single shot cooey than a spas but thats just me :).
Too each his own, and it still really pisses me off that they are prohibs.
I want it so that you can own any small arm ever invented and will be as long as your sane and trained ect. ect.
 
I had the 12 and the 15 in the UK, both were good but needed carefull cleaning, they fell under section one firearms not shotgun licence due to the large mag capacity, if anything the earlier 12 was better than the later 15 tube over box mag, but both were fun to shoot.
 
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