Spectre Ballistics Light Practical Carbine - NR Receiver Set

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Controlsnut said:
Hi jhnvan,

Thanks for taking the time to answer. I warn you, you're dealing with a newbie here.

My perception was that the buffer tube is counted in the overall length of an AR-15 because it will not function properly with the buffer tube removed. I am specifically referring to US rules here as I understand that in Canada that the AR-15 was restricted status in Canada, regardless of the length.

In the case of the Spectre LPC, it will function properly with the buffer tube, and it can be 'easily' removed. Would that not exclude the buffer tube as being counted as part of the Spectre LPC's 26" overall length as it pertains to maintaining its NR status in Canada?
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A lot of firearms can be fired with parts removed. Think of rifles with full wooden stocks, nothing that stops them being shot with the stock removed (well maybe besides common sense and looking stupid).
 
Controlsnut said:
Hi jhnvan,

Thanks for taking the time to answer. I warn you, you're dealing with a newbie here.

My perception was that the buffer tube is counted in the overall length of an AR-15 because it will not function properly with the buffer tube removed. I am specifically referring to US rules here as I understand that in Canada that the AR-15 was restricted status in Canada, regardless of the length.

In the case of the Spectre LPC, it will function properly with the buffer tube, and it can be 'easily' removed. Would that not exclude the buffer tube as being counted as part of the Spectre LPC's 26" overall length as it pertains to maintaining its NR status in Canada?
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An AR15 cannot function without the buffer tube so yes the tube has to be part of the equation. However not all firearms using a buffer tube need it to function. Think of all the bolt action chassis systems that use them. The big thing here is that the overall length is measured with the rifle in it's current shooting configuration. It's how you use it that makes a difference here. The Spectre LPC doesn't need the buffer tube to fire. The overall length will still include the buffer if you are using the rifle with it installed. You could make the rifle 26in in length without the buffer by installing a long enough barrel. That would still be legal. But you wouldn't be able to use the rifle legally if you had a short barrel without the buffer tube installed since it would be shorter than 26in.

That's how I understand the law to be.
 
So regarding the buffer tube - is it a proprietary component? I was under the impression that you would be using a modified carrier since it's manually cycling, and I was hoping for that reason you would be able to attach third party buffer extensions including those such as KNS which offer 1913-interface compatible ones, akin to those being used on the SIG MCX/MPX family that allow for folding.
 
jhnvan said:
An AR15 cannot function without the buffer tube so yes the tube has to be part of the equation. However not all firearms using a buffer tube need it to function. Think of all the bolt action chassis systems that use them. The big thing here is that the overall length is measured with the rifle in it's current shooting configuration. It's how you use it that makes a difference here. The Spectre LPC doesn't need the buffer tube to fire. The overall length will still include the buffer if you are using the rifle with it installed. You could make the rifle 26in in length without the buffer by installing a long enough barrel. That would still be legal. But you wouldn't be able to use the rifle legally if you had a short barrel without the buffer tube installed since it would be shorter than 26in.

That's how I understand the law to be.
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Thanks very much jhnvan. I understand now. Cheers.
 
So regarding the buffer tube - is it a proprietary component?
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They have already stated that it will use a regular AR-15 buffer tube thread.

But the hole in the receiver will be a "blind hole"; Which means it does not go all the way through.

A buffer tube is always locked in place with a "castle nut". You need a special wrench (and a vise) to remove it.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
They have already stated that it will use a regular AR-15 buffer tube thread.

But the hole in the receiver will be a "blind hole"; Which means it does not go all the way through.

A buffer tube is always locked in place with a "castle nut". You need a special wrench (and a vise) to remove it.
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Why do you need a vice?
 
Dexter Morgan said:
They have already stated that it will use a regular AR-15 buffer tube thread.

But the hole in the receiver will be a "blind hole"; Which means it does not go all the way through.

A buffer tube is always locked in place with a "castle nut". You need a special wrench (and a vise) to remove it.
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I have an AR armorer's wrench etc have experience building them.... trying to get the question answered 'what is their definition of not easily removed'.
 
Janeau said:
No vise needed to remove the castle nut..and a small brass punch can turn the nut ...easy to do unless it is staked.
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Yep, that's the way I did a couple of mine (brass punch and hammer, though it did leave a brass mark on the nut), before I bought a wrench - hence my question as to the *need* of a vise. I was just curious if there was something I was missing SBLPC.
 
hence my question as to the *need* of a vise.
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Nobody "needs" a vise or the correct wrench to do any job on any piece of machinery.

It's up to you if you want to do it properly, or just hit it with a hammer.
 
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